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Aragorn race-swapped?? What. The. Literal. Fuck?

Started by Reckall, August 20, 2022, 04:18:14 PM

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Ghostmaker

Quote from: Insane Nerd Ramblings on March 17, 2023, 08:48:01 AM
Welp,

turns out its not JUST Aragorn. Now its also Éowyn and Galadriel too. The fuckers at WotC who did this are slime of the highest sort but are about to discover they messed with the wrong franchise. My guess is that a large part of this set is gonna end up in landfills across the US....
Linkage?

Insane Nerd Ramblings

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"Democracy too is a religion. It is the worship of Jackals by Jackasses." HL Mencken

crkrueger

The sad thing about race-swapping is, you still have mostly white people making the decisions, and doing the creating, so they're not going to create great new black, brown, yellow or red IP.

A black Aragorn is a stupid and meaningless virtue signaling gesture, made by upscale honkeys.  Give me a black hero to rival Aragorn, and make the color of his skin the least of his virtues.
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Insane Nerd Ramblings

Quote from: crkrueger on March 20, 2023, 05:38:05 AMThe sad thing about race-swapping is, you still have mostly white people making the decisions, and doing the creating, so they're not going to create great new black, brown, yellow or red IP.

In any other context, what the scum at WotC did would be classified as blackface. And honestly, at this point, that's all I can think of it as: modern blackface by nitwits who couldn't be trusted to pour piss out of a boot with instructions on the heel.
"My political opinions lean more and more to Anarchy (philosophically understood, meaning abolition of control not whiskered men with bombs)" - JRR Tolkien

"Democracy too is a religion. It is the worship of Jackals by Jackasses." HL Mencken

Spinachcat


Armchair Gamer

Given that Arwen is Galadriel's granddaughter, it seems that the choices of who got race-swapped and how were not thought through very thoroughly.

Insane Nerd Ramblings

"My political opinions lean more and more to Anarchy (philosophically understood, meaning abolition of control not whiskered men with bombs)" - JRR Tolkien

"Democracy too is a religion. It is the worship of Jackals by Jackasses." HL Mencken

crkrueger

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on March 20, 2023, 08:25:45 PM
Given that Arwen is Galadriel's granddaughter, it seems that the choices of who got race-swapped and how were not thought through very thoroughly.

Bro, you know no one at WotC believes in Genetics.
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

"Tangency Edition" D&D would have no classes or races, but 17 genders to choose from. -TristramEvans

Ratman_tf

Quote from: crkrueger on March 20, 2023, 05:38:05 AM
The sad thing about race-swapping is, you still have mostly white people making the decisions, and doing the creating, so they're not going to create great new black, brown, yellow or red IP.

I've started calling it "White leftovers".
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silencio789

I don't remember anyone's skin colour being mentioned in Tolkien.
Given that Tolkien was a strong anti apartheid campaigner, so quite opposed to racial segregation or defining people by race then I am not really sure where you are coming from.
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DocJones

Quote from: silencio789 on March 22, 2023, 05:50:52 PM
I don't remember anyone's skin colour being mentioned in Tolkien.
Given that Tolkien was a strong anti apartheid campaigner, so quite opposed to racial segregation or defining people by race then I am not really sure where you are coming from.
The Haradrim were described as swarthy and brown.

silencio789

And so were Frenchmen in 19th century novels.
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jhkim

Quote from: silencio789 on March 22, 2023, 05:50:52 PM
I don't remember anyone's skin colour being mentioned in Tolkien.
Given that Tolkien was a strong anti apartheid campaigner, so quite opposed to racial segregation or defining people by race then I am not really sure where you are coming from.

Tolkien did describe skin color at a number of points in his works - along with other features like hair color, eyes, and so forth - though not always. So from a purism standpoint, it is incorrect.

On the other hand, there are lots of things that aren't off in adaptations that are often overlooked. In the movies, Frodo was cast as a teenager when he was a 50-year-old man in the books. It was brought up as a technicality, but almost no one got upset over it. We didn't see threads over "age-swapping" of Frodo.

The core issue is that some people see skin tone changes as racial bias against white people -- just as historically many have complained of pro-white bias when casting white actors as previously non-white characters - from Charlie Chan to Legend of Earthsea.

I think it's too often knee-jerk reaction either way. For example, some people complained about yellowface in the movie Cloud Atlas -- but that was a case where many actors were cast either way across type, so I didn't have a problem with it. Adaptations often make changes to the original like age-swapped Frodo, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. I haven't seen the MtG sets in general, so I don't have an opinion here.

SHARK

Greetings!

More anti-white racism. It is designed purposefully to denigrate and mock white men, white strength, white values, and white heroes--and replace them with black men. Or women. It is all a table full of Woke BS. Virtually anyone or anything is better, and more noble, than white men. White culture must be destroyed. Part of that ambition is also calibrated to always showing the white women hooking up with black men, or becoming lesbians, or whatever.

All of this is also, not coincidentally, inspired from Marxism. It is all designed to demoralize an entire society, to emotionally exhaust them, and break them down, and cause divisions. This makes them all weaker and more ready to just get on their knees and accept the slave yoke to the Marxist/Globalist super-state.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
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#89
Quote from: silencio789 on March 22, 2023, 05:50:52 PMI don't remember anyone's skin colour being mentioned in Tolkien.

I'm sorry, what were you wrong about?

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- At the Sign of The Prancing Pony, The Lord of the Rings
"My political opinions lean more and more to Anarchy (philosophically understood, meaning abolition of control not whiskered men with bombs)" - JRR Tolkien

"Democracy too is a religion. It is the worship of Jackals by Jackasses." HL Mencken