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Author Topic: The Shadow Of Yesterday - Ability Pools (for people that KNOW the fucking game)  (Read 3047 times)

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« Reply #45 on: April 23, 2012, 11:22:56 PM »
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But there is no strict definition. That's the problem. Aside from the inanity of making us post in another forum (apparently in the name of clarity), the only standard that can be applied is that dictated by his own fancy. How on earth am I meant to know whether this game is a 'story game' or an rpg according to what he decides if he doesn't explain? I'm not a mind reader. Every rpg is a narrative game: players use words to create a communal scene at any given time. That's the whole point of the board being the players' imaginations. Really this is just beyond petulant.

And this thread was never about reviewing the game nor people's opinions on it as a whole.


C'mon, anyone who's seen Pundit toss a game in Other Games before saw this coming a mile away.  Not sure how you can be surprised every single time it happens, like you were with Hot War - oh, that's right, you're not surprised.  You know exactly what Pundit's definition is - you just don't agree with it.  :D
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« Reply #46 on: April 25, 2012, 01:25:48 AM »
Clinton Nixon, the author of The Shadow of Yesterday, did suggest the term "story game" which was later adopted by the site story-games.com. But in his usage, story games were not a subset of RPGs or a category of funky RPG-like games -- he was using it to describe a superset of games, a broad umbrella that includes all RPGs, from D&D to Donjon, as well as games such as Universalis that are arguably RPGs and games such as Atlas Game's Once Upon a Time that no one would call an RPG.

But he was using a very broad definition of story: "A story is a linked series of events which contains one or more conflicts." This would cover what goes on in Forward... to Adventure! as much as within his own games. As someone who likes many different kinds of RPGs, many different kinds of games, he was trying to get past all the ghettoization of games and arguing about what is what.

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« Reply #47 on: April 25, 2012, 12:32:38 PM »
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Clinton Nixon, the author of The Shadow of Yesterday, did suggest the term "story game" which was later adopted by the site story-games.com. But in his usage, story games were not a subset of RPGs or a category of funky RPG-like games -- he was using it to describe a superset of games, a broad umbrella that includes all RPGs, from D&D to Donjon, as well as games such as Universalis that are arguably RPGs and games such as Atlas Game's Once Upon a Time that no one would call an RPG.

But he was using a very broad definition of story: "A story is a linked series of events which contains one or more conflicts." This would cover what goes on in Forward... to Adventure! as much as within his own games. As someone who likes many different kinds of RPGs, many different kinds of games, he was trying to get past all the ghettoization of games and arguing about what is what.

That´s true, but in this tiny parallel universe, TSoY can´t be in the same subforum than D&D.