Quote from: Tom BRefresh my memory...how many mods does The RPGsite have?

None, really.  The entire staff, such as it is, are all admin level.  Pundit and I are listed as mods in a few places, because the structure of the board software made it useful to make us both from a technical standpoint.  The size and relatively drama-free nature of the board as it is currently just does not justify the existence of a separate group of mods.

Also, Sacrificial Lamb isn't the only user here who wasn't banished from another board.  It's just that the RPGnet exiles are rather vocal at times.

Quote from: Kyle AaronSo I'm glad to see therpgsite back up and humming along. It's a pity the rpg.netters view it negatively, and vice versa. rpg.net has many fine qualities, it's just that its moderators are largely not among those fine qualities. On both these sites, there's a bit too much Us vs Them. It reminds me embarassingly of rpg theory.

Too right.

It'd be nice if we could concentrate on the positives of what we have, and sort of go from there.  I do think some use this site as sort of a steam vent, and I can kind of understand that.  But it seems to ruin some perfectly good threads at times, which is a pity.

I just loved the irony, until the next day lightning took out my network card.

Fucking karma.

Quote from: Sacrificial LambI'm not banned from any rpg websites, and I'm not aware of being on anybody's shitlist. Maybe I'm the exception here though; I don't know.

To be honest I can't say this for a fact, but you sure seem to be.

Quote from: Sacrificial LambYou were counting the number of mods that appeared within only five pages... ....and well, I don't know. They might not have liked you pointing that out.

Well, technically it was within TWO pages, but that's not important

And this may be a little too deep for an internet post, but I learned that if you always strive to be liked, you will never be loved.

Then again, you shouldn't strive to be hated either. There's a balance that to be honest I'm still trying to figure out myself.

Quote from: Sacrificial LambI'm not banned from any rpg websites, and I'm not aware of being on anybody's shitlist. Maybe I'm the exception here though; I don't know.

I've never been banned anywhere. And I've tried in a few places

Try criticising the moderation, that usually does it.

Quote from: shewolfI've never been banned anywhere. And I've tried in a few places

Me too. I've been a registered user at RPGnet for 2 years now and have never had any problems, not even a warning.

It's not too difficult to follow the rules, even on the strictest of sites. Where people tend to fall afoul of the system is in thinking they can circumvent it with continual passive aggressive sniping. All it really achieves is to bring you to the attention of the mods, who are infamous for their inconsistency when dealing with that shit. When the hammer inevitably falls the injured party will quite rightly complain about how they didn't break the letter of the law, seemingly oblivious to the fact that's not how RPGnet works.

Quote from: shewolfI've never been banned anywhere. And I've tried in a few places

Ditto.  Over a dozen forums, although only a few extensively, and never so much as a warning.  A regular on RPGnet ever since it's original incarnation way back when.

Quote from: DrewIt's not too difficult to follow the rules, even on the strictest of sites. Where people tend to fall afoul of the system is in thinking they can circumvent it with continual passive aggressive sniping. All it really achieves is to bring you to the attention of the mods, who are infamous for their inconsistency when dealing with that shit. When the hammer inevitably falls the injured party will quite rightly complain about how they didn't break the letter of the law, seemingly oblivious to the fact that's not how RPGnet works.

Not that I disagree with your analysis, but for me personally the flaw in the system is the fact that passive-agressive BS is the only way some posters can express what are, to me, perfectly legit feelings.  By my lights allowing comments like "Jeff, quick being a dick in this thread" would be a better solution than stifling such remarks, only to see them reappear as rules-lawyerish sniping.

But it's easy for me to hold an opinion like that when I'm not modding the crazy zoo that is Tangency.

Quote from: jrients"Jeff, quick being a dick in this thread".

How do I quick being a dick?  

(Its late for me and I do like this site for the very reason that it feels more like I'm in my favorite bar, where someone can call me an asshole and I don't take it too personally.)

Quote from: jrientsNot that I disagree with your analysis, but for me personally the flaw in the system is the fact that passive-agressive BS is the only way some posters can express what are, to me, perfectly legit feelings.  By my lights allowing comments like "Jeff, quick being a dick in this thread" would be a better solution than stifling such remarks, only to see them reappear as rules-lawyerish sniping.

I agree entirely. Passive aggression has slowly become the lingua franca of conflict resoloution over there. It's a direct response to the sometimes draconian moderation regarding personal and group attacks. I think the critical mistake the admins made was in believing that a cessation of direct insults would somehow convince everyone to play nice. All it really did was drive the conflict underground, resulting in those with a better grasp of the sites workings to dance around the rules with impunity whilst others got modhammered.

It's weird. There have been plenty of intelligent, qualified people policing the forums over the years, one would have expected at least some of them to realise that prohibition rarely works.  

QuoteBut it's easy for me to hold an opinion like that when I'm not modding the crazy zoo that is Tangency.

I rarely post there. Talking about politics, health or my personal life to an anonymous online audience holds very little interest. I have friends for that.

Quote from: shewolfI've never been banned anywhere. And I've tried in a few places

You're not trying hard enough. Last I checked I was the only person ever permabanned from DSF. Not even Doc Funky managed that. They won't even let me activate my back up accounts.