... I look forward to your evidence.
LOL. Based on your example, I should share some random internet website study that helps make YOUR point?
Yes. There are considerably less women in STEM than men. That's doesn't mean there are NO women in STEM. Also, oggmash was suggesting that since his manly manliness was in construction and there's no women on his crew, that there are MUST be no women in construction. If I use the same quality of evidence as you two, I might was well not waste my time.
I get that the misogynists in the room believe the world revolves around men. Duh. I'm still not CONVINCED you're remotely correct.
I really wish you'd stop using the word misogynist like a punctuation mark. You may not like the scientifically documented fact that we are a sexually dimorphic species, but that doesn't change science. Men have 2000% more testosterone than women. We are on average 40% stronger. I'd provide links to document both, but you've made it clear that to you evidence is "some random internet study", so I'm not sure the point. The World Weightlifting Foundation is my source.
The nordic countries have the greatest economic mobility and flexibility of any in the world. The vast, vast majority of teachers and nurses are women. The vast, vast majority of sanitation and construction workers are men. That's politically inconvenient, but many of us have worked in construction, or sanitation.
You know how many women I saw in facilities across a 30 year career? Zero. Not one. Ever. Are you telling me the janitor's club, those evil men, are gatekeeping women? No.
It's a dirty disgusting profession with low social status, and it has to do with systems and things. In general, men have more of an affinity for systems and things. Woman have more of an affinity for people. I mean across billions of us. That doesn't mean that my wife can't take me to school about programming despite both of us being senior software engineers. She's better than I am, and I can admit it with no ego.
But she's also one of only three women she met at her company in the 12 years she worked in software. Everyone was thrilled to have her. No one threw up barriers. No one gate kept her out. The simple fact is...not that many women are interested in STEM. It grew for a while in the late 80s, and into the 90s, but leveled out by 2000.
I understand that since I'm using words, and am disagreeing with you, that your marxist training will tell you I must be insulted. Your next play is ad hominem attack, I believe.
I'll leave you with this. With rare exceptions a woman can do almost anything a man can do. With rare exceptions a man can do almost everything a woman can do. There are great male pre-school teachers, and amazing female surgeons. But in general men and women make different life choices. This is a fact, mirrored globally, everywhere they have the freedom to make their own choices.
If every man died tomorrow we'd be screwed for many of the reasons listed here.
If every woman died tomorrow we'd be screwed for a very different set of reasons. In addition to being capable of filling all the jobs a man can fill, they are also the nurturers and primary care givers in our society. See: nature. Check out every other primate. Our genders are specialized for a reason.
Recognizing that doesn't make anyone a misogynist, nor does it mean we're saying a woman can't do anything she wants to. You'll still lob the big M word my way I'm sure, though.
To everyone else reading...I am so glad for this forum's existence. Anywhere else and I would be banned for this post.