Quote from: Ghostmaker on October 06, 2020, 08:23:59 AM
I can't help but think this is going to kill cinema in the U.S., at least. It's been limping along ever since the dawn of VHS, and bleeding out slowly but steadily.

I'm wondering if blockbusters with $200 million production costs are just going to vanish.

A whole wave of additional delays, including Dune and The Batman:
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/the-batman-delays-release-1234793625/
https://variety.com/2020/film/box-office/dune-release-date-delayed-2021-1234767105/
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54432170

Quote from: Ghostmaker on October 06, 2020, 08:23:59 AM
I can't help but think this is going to kill cinema in the U.S., at least. It's been limping along ever since the dawn of VHS, and bleeding out slowly but steadily.

I don't think this will kill moviegoing, but it has certainly set it back.

The movie industry should have been pushing to get people back in theaters, even if at limited capacity with social distancing. Or, hell, do drive in in the parking lot. Instead they pulled back, and made it worse. Now the theater chains are suspending operations, and the studios are sitting on millions of dollars worth of debt from movies they aren't releasing, and they're screwing up the release schedule for 2021 already too.

They will be able to rebuild, but it will be harder now, and take longer.

Quote from: Ghostmaker on October 06, 2020, 08:23:59 AM
I can't help but think this is going to kill cinema in the U.S., at least. It's been limping along ever since the dawn of VHS, and bleeding out slowly but steadily.

People like to go to the movies still and some find the TV/DVD/whatever experience to be lacking in some way.

Others like to see the movie as it was released, rather than the increasingly edited versions that end up on DVD. Or were burned by the many screwovers of fake "letterboxing" that ruined many a VHS and DVD, and other screwups. Even moreso with TV shows as if you didnt see it on release you likely will never see it in its original form thereafter. This has been a problem for a long time now.

Quote from: Pat on October 06, 2020, 10:29:40 AM
I'm wondering if blockbusters with $200 million production costs are just going to vanish.

A whole wave of additional delays, including Dune and The Batman:
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/the-batman-delays-release-1234793625/
https://variety.com/2020/film/box-office/dune-release-date-delayed-2021-1234767105/
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54432170

1: One can hope. These things have been increasingly a mess in one way or another and probably part of why companies attack negative reviews now or increasingly shill good reviews.

2: Some are also being pushed back due to SJW mandated changes. Or other bouts of terminal stupid Hollywood is rapidly death spiralling.

Quote from: Lurkndog on October 06, 2020, 11:02:16 AMI don't think this will kill moviegoing, but it has certainly set it back.

The movie industry should have been pushing to get people back in theaters, even if at limited capacity with social distancing. Or, hell, do drive in in the parking lot. Instead they pulled back, and made it worse. Now the theater chains are suspending operations, and the studios are sitting on millions of dollars worth of debt from movies they aren't releasing, and they're screwing up the release schedule for 2021 already too.

They will be able to rebuild, but it will be harder now, and take longer.

1: People like the experience too much to give it up.

2: I am surprised we did not see an attempt to revive drive ins.

3: At this point Hollywood has shot itself in the head so many times and is prepping to decapitate itself with upcomming disasters that its looking increasingly bleak for movies and theaters.

Quote from: Omega on October 12, 2020, 07:36:03 PM
2: I am surprised we did not see an attempt to revive drive ins.

As far as I know, the remaining drive-in theaters have stayed open and stayed in business. They are pretty rare, though, and generally way out in the boonies.

There were stories about Walmarts doing drive in movies in their parking lots, but I'm not aware of any near me doing it. Our local Walmarts are kind of shitty.

Quote from: Omega on October 12, 2020, 07:36:03 PM
2: I am surprised we did not see an attempt to revive drive ins.

That's been happening. Farms, museums, kiddy attractions, and other entertainment venues have been doing drive-in movies. It's improvised modifications of existing facilities, and event-driven, aimed at drawing in crowds when social distancing and limited capacity makes indoor events less viable (and less profitable), rather than new stand-alone drive-ins. But that makes sense, because the lockdowns are supposed but to end at some point, so it doesn't make a lot of sense to make a big capital investment in something that will fade away in a few months. I can't vouch for how widespread it it, but I've seen it in multiple parts of the country.

Did anyone here see it yet?

Quote from: Trond on December 25, 2020, 01:41:32 PM
Did anyone here see it yet?

Not yet. I think we're going to see it tonight on streaming.
I'm dreading they make Lord too much of a bad Trump caricature to enjoy the film.

Saw it yesterday. I guess I should mention that I am not into the Wonder Woman franchise, but I like Gal Gadot.
It was not full of SJW-moments, the notable exception being a woman who suddenly gets harassed by a bunch of random dudes, only to get her "revenge" later. I don't think any of the characters resembled Trump.

[Mild spoilers I suppose] Oh boy, I thought it had a lot of changing-the-rules-as-we-go moments. Several times I went "is that how that works now? OK I guess?". WW is getting more and more hyper-powered, but I'm not always sure why she gets hurt one moment and not another (although she nearly loses her powers at one point). I also thought the script was really stupid at times. Her boyfriend was a WWII pilot who is brought back from the dead, but for a while he seems clueless even about things he should know about from that time. I though it was a bit of a mess, frankly.

Quote from: Trond on December 26, 2020, 11:17:13 AM
Saw it yesterday. I guess I should mention that I am not into the Wonder Woman franchise, but I like Gal Gadot.
It was not full of SJW-moments, the notable exception being a woman who suddenly gets harassed by a bunch of random dudes, only to get her "revenge" later. I don't think any of the characters resembled Trump.

[Mild spoilers I suppose] Oh boy, I thought it had a lot of changing-the-rules-as-we-go moments. Several times I went "is that how that works now? OK I guess?". WW is getting more and more hyper-powered, but I'm not always sure why she gets hurt one moment and not another (although she nearly loses her powers at one point). I also thought the script was really stupid at times. Her boyfriend was a WWII pilot who is brought back from the dead, but for a while he seems clueless even about things he should know about from that time. I though it was a bit of a mess, frankly.

I posted my thoughts in the movie thread. I thought Maxwell Lord was too on the nose as a caricature of the "orange man" boogeyman to not think it was aimed directly at Trump.

I agree, it was a mess. The core idea is great, but many times the story lost cohesion as they tried to pull all the elements together.

And Steve was a WWI pilot. The whole Smithsonian jet theft has more holes than a block of swiss cheese.

One thing I just realized: at no point in this one does Wonder Woman have a sword.

Good.

Quote from: Ratman_tf on December 26, 2020, 11:36:32 AM

Quote from: Trond on December 26, 2020, 11:17:13 AM
Saw it yesterday. I guess I should mention that I am not into the Wonder Woman franchise, but I like Gal Gadot.
It was not full of SJW-moments, the notable exception being a woman who suddenly gets harassed by a bunch of random dudes, only to get her "revenge" later. I don't think any of the characters resembled Trump.

[Mild spoilers I suppose] Oh boy, I thought it had a lot of changing-the-rules-as-we-go moments. Several times I went "is that how that works now? OK I guess?". WW is getting more and more hyper-powered, but I'm not always sure why she gets hurt one moment and not another (although she nearly loses her powers at one point). I also thought the script was really stupid at times. Her boyfriend was a WWII pilot who is brought back from the dead, but for a while he seems clueless even about things he should know about from that time. I though it was a bit of a mess, frankly.

I posted my thoughts in the movie thread. I thought Maxwell Lord was too on the nose as a caricature of the "orange man" boogeyman to not think it was aimed directly at Trump.

I agree, it was a mess. The core idea is great, but many times the story lost cohesion as they tried to pull all the elements together.

And Steve was a WWI pilot. The whole Smithsonian jet theft has more holes than a block of swiss cheese.

Starting with Bi-Planes not being anything like Jets

A museum storing a fully functional war jet...

With the fuel thanks full...

Like the Critical Drinker is wont to say:

"Fuck of film!"

Maybe it was really a Decepticon? 

Quote from: Omega on January 11, 2021, 09:56:09 PM
Maybe it was really a Decepticon? 

https://tfumux.fandom.com/wiki/Invisibility_spray

Hm.