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Re: Willow series
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2022, 11:24:04 PM »
I wonder if Dove’s issue in the carriage wasn’t due to her dalliances with the prince.

Also didn’t like Kit. Or her girlfriend. Prince Hastur just sorta occupies space.

The other guy, Boorman, he’s cool. Dove is surprisingly good.

I’m on the fence about it in general, but it started off better than Andor and that took until episode 3 to get good, so it’ll at least get next week.

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Re: Willow series
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2022, 04:48:31 PM »
Well.....if you can't tell from my username....Willow and the three books hold a special place in my heart.

I made it about 30 minutes of the first episode and quit. I mean I already knew there would be lgbt in there somewhere, that's a given anymore.

What really disappointed me was the lack of anything resembling a well crafted story. The producer told all you need to know about the series with this title from bounding into comics

‘Willow’ Producer Jonathan Kasdan Says Sequel Series’ Central Lesbian Romance “Keeps Alive That Spirit Of Moving The Fantasy Genre Into A Contemporary Sound”

Wokeywood has truly lost its ability to craft and present a compelling story. I just want a good fantasy story....and this ain't it. The princesses horrible CW performance at the dance and the prince being......well milquetoast.

But I'm not pissed or angry....I've moved on. Enjoy it if you like it and have a blessed day.
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Re: Willow series
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2022, 05:21:13 AM »
  Isn't this show on disney+?   Why would anyone be surprised it might smash some queers into it or otherwise be some degenerate mutation of what the original story/product was?   I can not see any scenario where I would pay for disney + at all, that company has looong since shown they rather push an agenda rather than make money, or simply push an agenda until they brain wash everyone into consuming what they offer regardless of degenerate content/modern problems mashed into what ever they are producing.  Hard Pass.

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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2022, 01:21:25 PM »
I noticed some Lovecraft and King in Yellow references, oddly. Pnakotic, Hastur, Immemorial City… I think the writer is secretly a nerd

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Re: Willow series
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2022, 01:52:12 PM »
End of Ep 3 is unwatchable.

There is no lighting.

Being atmospheric and being viewable are not mutually exclusive concepts, for fuck’s sake.

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« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2022, 01:57:30 PM »
  Isn't this show on disney+?   Why would anyone be surprised it might smash some queers into it or otherwise be some degenerate mutation of what the original story/product was?   I can not see any scenario where I would pay for disney + at all, that company has looong since shown they rather push an agenda rather than make money, or simply push an agenda until they brain wash everyone into consuming what they offer regardless of degenerate content/modern problems mashed into what ever they are producing.  Hard Pass.

yup, this. and we all know dumb disney has the agenda
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« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2022, 09:18:23 PM »
Wat? Where did the show demonstrate that she can't be in love with a man? Her objection was to an arranged marriage.

Now that I've re-watched, I'm even more convinced that the princess doesn't want the arranged marriage because she's a lesbo.  Care to refute?

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« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2022, 12:41:14 AM »
Wat? Where did the show demonstrate that she can't be in love with a man? Her objection was to an arranged marriage.

Now that I've re-watched, I'm even more convinced that the princess doesn't want the arranged marriage because she's a lesbo.  Care to refute?

That you're convinced? You can be convinced about whatever you like.

Ep 3. Saving spoilers for a couple of days, but the choice of music at the end of the episode was pretty cringe.
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Re: Willow series
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2022, 05:27:49 PM »
There’s a reference to An American Werewolf in London

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« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2022, 09:01:45 PM »
I gave a shit about Willow once, in 1988, and it will never, ever, ever happen again.

EDIT: OK, that was a bit over the top. Sorry. However, out of all the disappointing fantasy movies I've ever watched, Willow is kind of iconic for me. It's like the Last Jedi of fantasy movies, so determined to subvert all the fantasy cliches, and yet, in the end, so deeply cliched itself.
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« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2022, 12:58:10 AM »
Ep 4. I really liked. I guess I'm too dense to understand the hate for the show.

I will agree that Kit and Elora are really jarring. Kit especially but Elora has her moments. They really don't 'feel' like fantasy world characters. More like Tik Tok Teens dropped into a fantasy world.

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Re: Willow series
« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2022, 03:30:45 AM »
I guess I'm too dense to understand the hate for the show.

You don't need to be dense, you just need to have shitty taste.

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Re: Willow series
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2022, 03:35:34 PM »
Ep 4. I really liked. I guess I'm too dense to understand the hate for the show.

I will agree that Kit and Elora are really jarring. Kit especially but Elora has her moments. They really don't 'feel' like fantasy world characters. More like Tik Tok Teens dropped into a fantasy world.

Your second sentence answers the question posed by your first sentence. People are sick of fantasy filled with modern, out of place characters and messaging.

Willow was a kids movie from over 30 years ago yet the sequel is a show that you can't even watch with your kids. It isn't just Disney, you see the same thing with shows like Riverdale and even Winx Club (a badly drawn copy of Sailor Moon whose live action version is TV-MA WTF?)

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Re: Willow series
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2022, 04:53:49 PM »
Perhaps the Critical Drinker can explain it to you, in his own inimitable style...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLRHR2Nou8A

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Re: Willow series
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2022, 05:45:29 PM »
Perhaps the Critical Drinker can explain it to you, in his own inimitable style...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLRHR2Nou8A

I've seen videos on my feed from Critical Drinker and Overlord DVD and Nerdrotica bashing the show. I haven't watched any of them because I'm super critical of some of these new shows, and I'm enjoying Willow. I think I'll finish the season before watching any critical videos.
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