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« Reply #75 on: June 13, 2007, 09:30:23 PM »
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Yeah, but foxes stink worse than koalas.


Speciest lies!

Besides, I use strawberry shampoo daily.

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Pundit's once solid point that I cannot refute is that by and large he doesn't really do anything but talk, but that talk carries a lot of weight, and further, that this latest event with James is a potential example of what I see as a future problem when he more regularly starts moving beyond this talk.


I must've missed "this event with James," which seems to be all the rage in this thread.
 

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« Reply #76 on: June 13, 2007, 09:32:02 PM »
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Speciest lies!

Besides, I use strawberry shampoo daily.



I must've missed "this event with James," which seems to be all the rage in this thread.
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« Reply #77 on: June 13, 2007, 09:33:32 PM »
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Speciest lies!

Fuck off back to Foxland, brushboy.
The past lives on in your front room
The poor still weak the rich still rule
History lives in the books at home
The books at home

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« Reply #78 on: June 13, 2007, 09:48:16 PM »
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Fuck off back to Foxland, brushboy.

Don't make me bust out with the kittens and pie.  Or the kitten pies.
 

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« Reply #79 on: June 13, 2007, 09:49:32 PM »
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Don't make me bust out with the kittens and pie.  Or the kitten pies.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
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« Reply #80 on: June 13, 2007, 10:52:47 PM »
Take it to Tangency.

My bad, wrong site. :p

I kid. But, really, I don't agree with Pundit's take (on the kind of person I am), but I think he's doing a good job as a mod. I come here because I like the site. I'm glad I won't get banned for calling someone a dick if I want to.

The downside of that is, sometimes I call someone a dick. Sometimes it's Pundit. It's not anything personal, Pundit. I don't follow anyone around and try to cause trouble. I guess the biggest exception seems to be JimBob right now, and it's not like it's a vendetta or anything. He's just doing some things in threads I'm in that I take exception to.

I hope people arn't following Pundit around to slag him. That'd say more about them then it would about Pundt.
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« Reply #81 on: June 13, 2007, 11:14:09 PM »
A shame J Arcane that you know so much about me, in fact more than even I do. It's amazing your insights into me, and if any of them were remotely close to true I'd be creeped out at out how eerily accurate they are.

But it's all crap so mostly I'm unimpressed.

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« Reply #82 on: June 13, 2007, 11:33:03 PM »
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If you wanna look for excuses to be offended, then by all means, have at.  But you could at least stop to consider that maybe what I was saying really was just directed at the person I was talking about and no one else, instead of choosing to read a generalization where none was present.



Hey man, that's cool.  On the one time we've interacted before  you were completely civil.  What you posted DID have a ring of "your opinion is pretty worthless to me if you haven't contributed, post-wise, heavily to this site"  With your clarification, and another read through, I see where I may have taken you too broadly, and I apologize.
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« Reply #83 on: June 13, 2007, 11:38:54 PM »
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Hey man, that's cool.  On the one time we've interacted before  you were completely civil.  What you posted DID have a ring of "your opinion is pretty worthless to me if you haven't contributed, post-wise, heavily to this site"  With your clarification, and another read through, I see where I may have taken you too broadly, and I apologize.
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« Reply #84 on: June 14, 2007, 12:01:35 AM »
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Actually, I understand that there are imported eucalypts in California.

But koalas are stinking, aggressive creatures. Look out for the claws.


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« Reply #85 on: June 14, 2007, 12:20:52 AM »
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My comments toward SP boil down to the fact that, despite what Pundit would like to believe about me, I do not have any desire to "destroy" this site, and I have no desire to play a part with someone who actually does seem to have more interest in disrupting things and doesn't really give a shit about what happens here.  As soon as this latest big bout of drama dies, he'll disappear off to Animalball or wherever he can get his Internet Drama fix, until the next time he sees a prime topic to stir the pot here.  It's happened before, it'll happen again.


Sigh I wasn't going to do this, but allow me to say a few things. This is bullshit for a number of reasons.

I knwo you've erected your gaming cross, and climbed on so that all of us inners can see what a magnificent GAMER you are but that's crap,and you're a pretty shitty person for trying to do this.

I am a gamer. I have gamed for almost 23 years now. In that time I have never went a single year with out running a game. In fact there have been very months that I haven't gamed, both online and more importantly (and to my great pleasure) in real life.

I may not be the hallowed GAMER you seem to think you are, but I enjoy the hobby. I support it strongly: I purchase game materials on a frequent basis, and in some cases (Like Shadowrun) I own copies of books numbering into the triplicates. (Or int he case of frequently used books by my group I will purchase upwards of five or six copies.) I watch crappy RPG movies. I buy dice. I buy gaming books for presents for my group.

You may think gaming exists independent of the real world, and other things but that's bullshit of the highest order. My games are inspired by many things: comic books, movies, music, popular culture, history, politics, etc... Which is why I like to discuss all of these things.

I have posted exactly one disruptive thread here. One. I have never intentionally caused problems in any Game related thread. I have never once disrupted one of these threads with off topic commentary. I am in fact a model poster-I post when I have time, when I have something to say, and because I earnestly believe in what I say.

I don't claim to always be correct, or the most educated guy in the room, or even think that I am infallible, which seems more than you're capable if your posts are the judge of whom you are. I don't try to tell others how they should post, or why. I care deeply that this site, like the others I participate be as free as possible respecting the one value I prize above all others: Freedom of Expression.

Perhaps you don't value it, or perhaps you think you're values are separate from your posting style-I can not possibly know the answer to that, but I'll thank you kindly to get the fuck off my dick.

I don't have to meet your bullshit standards, I am not any less a part of this hobby than anyone else here is, let alone you. I have written gaming supplements, purchased literally thousands of dollars worth of materials, read hundreds of thousands of hours worth of game related materials, played consistently, and had fun doing. Take your brand of bullshit and stick it up your self righteous, self serving ass.

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« Reply #86 on: June 14, 2007, 12:23:45 AM »
Wow.  That's a whole lot of words spent on shit that doesn't have a goddamn thing to do with anything I said.  

Bravo.  I congratulate you on your ability to get no point across whatsoever, yet somehow still get up in arms about it.
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« Reply #87 on: June 14, 2007, 10:40:42 AM »
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Actually, this is a nickname I've had for over 20 years, IRL, if you can imagine it. The old saying was that by the light of the full moon, I turn fuzzy and fall asleep.


>GASP!< Terrifying!
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« Reply #88 on: June 14, 2007, 02:44:28 PM »
Pundit didn't stop being who he is when he took over this site.  He uses the same rhetoric, name-calling and all, that he always has and there isn't anything wrong with that.  He has never tried to force his opinions on anyone and whether you agree with him or not he tends to provoke interesting debate. In my view he has dished it out and proved he can take it.

The problem I see is that some people don't separate Pundit as a poster with him as an Admin and would love to push him into banning someone just for a "gotcha" moment where they can claim all his free-speech talk is bullshit.

Looking at Pundit as Admin, he has been extremely fair IMO and has been true to his pledge that he won't sanction people for opinions or harsh rhetoric, only for disruptions to the site.  You can debate whether or not James or even Nox were actually disrupting the site (I'm not sure on this myself) but I don't think it is fair to act as if Pundit didn't have a good faith reason for thinking that was their intent.
 

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« Reply #89 on: June 14, 2007, 06:39:50 PM »
The Pundit has my confidence with regard to running this site.  When this is no longer the case, I shall make that known.
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