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Author Topic: The recent female Dr. Who: do you have an opinion?  (Read 5807 times)

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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2019, 03:00:47 PM »
I haven't watched the new Doctor, but my mother in law (massive Who fan) absolutely hated her.

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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2019, 08:54:09 PM »
I thought Doctor Who was a alien dealing with the weird and the strange throughout all time.  When was the Doctor staring at women all day?

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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2019, 02:03:20 PM »
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I haven't watched the new Doctor, but my mother in law (massive Who fan) absolutely hated her.

As the joke goes, having a woman Doctor ruins female fans fantasy of fucking him.
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« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2019, 07:12:00 PM »
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'male gaze'? In the original series? The Hell made her say that. What was said about Cpt Marvel. My good friend saw that recently and loved it. I was planning on seeing it this week, maybe see "Us" and make a day of it.

Brie Larson the actress playing Marvel has been openly pushing her "feminist agenda" and even deliverd some line at an interview that this movie was to be for her to exress her agenda. Then there is the whole "I dont want white male reporters" mess, the attacking anyone who speaks out as the usual "ist" sphiel. Theres some messaging in the movie to push "girl power" and some are not too thrilled that the movie removed Monica Rambeau's father as her inspiration and now its Danvers. And then there is the whole gender swapping the original Mar-Vell because apparently Larson wouldnt have a man giving her character empoerment or somesuch. The total blow up of Rotten Tomatoes heavily doctoring the ratings. Then there is Disney apparently buying tickets to inflate the numbers. The movie started off ok in the box office but then started to sink and may underperform even better/worse than Ghost in the Shell.

And on and on and on. It is as if they want the movie to fail.

And I still think some read too much early on into the trailers as negative, and that if Larson hadnt run off her mouth the reactions would not have been so negative. That and Marvel Comics themselves totally undermined the movie with just how badly they have handled the character in recent years with the whole "feminist Agenda" thing.

Is Captain Marvel worth seeing? Totally YMMV.

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« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2019, 07:13:25 PM »
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I thought Doctor Who was a alien dealing with the weird and the strange throughout all time.  When was the Doctor staring at women all day?

He wasnt. But some SJWs screech about Leela incessantly anyhow.

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« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2019, 07:59:43 PM »
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The movie started off ok in the box office but then started to sink and may underperform even better/worse than Ghost in the Shell.

And on and on and on. It is as if they want the movie to fail.

For reference, here's the numbers on those two films from Box Office Mojo:

Ghost in the Shell (BoxOfficeMojo)
Budget: approx. $110M
Domestic: opening weekend $18M, $7M second weekend (-61% drop)
Foreign: opening weekend $39M
All-time Total (domestic + foreign): $170M
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Captain Marvel (BoxOfficeMojo)
Budget: approx. $152M
Domestic: opening weekend $153M, second weekend $68M (-55% drop, average for MCU movies)
Foreign: Opening weekend $303M, second weekend $216M (-29% drop)


Captain Marvel already has a total gross of $797M after being out two weeks. Of the 21 MCU movies, it's second weekend drop (domestic) is the 7th smallest. (ref)

If you have any different numbers, I'd be interested to hear.

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« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2019, 03:09:49 PM »
''As the joke goes, having a woman Doctor ruins female fans fantasy of fucking him. ''

As a male fan i can say i dont have any such fantasies about the current Doctor either. Im repulsed by that woman, as a character and a human beeing. The season started out oke, i didnt see the trainwreck coming at us. As it turns out it was agenda driven, men hating and full on propaganda. This is now the new Doctor Who. And we are getting another season of this crap show, full of the the same crap. Ah well, there are always Faction Paradox novels to explore. Now thats undiscovered niche ground.

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« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2019, 12:33:36 AM »
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I think that they should have asked Helen Mirren to play the role instead of their current forgettable choice.


Joanna Lumley was apparently optioned to play a female Doctor after Tom Baker. But that fell through. She did though very briefly appear as the Doctor in the Comic Relief skit Curse of the Fatal Death.

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« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2019, 01:01:58 AM »
I've tried to watch a few more episodes since one of my players went out and bought the whole DVD set. But god its just not fun sitting through this stuff. I still think shed be great as the Doctor if just given a real writer who is not hellbent on ramming agendas down your throat just about every single episode. And if it isnt that then she suffering from Janeway schizo Syndrome. Sometimes both. And some of the episode plots themselves just... ugh...

But I find myself just not really liking a-lot of the new series in total. There are some gems. But the overall feeling was... eh.

We'll see where this goes.

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« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2020, 06:14:17 AM »
At first I was curious to see how they would do a female Doctor. Capaldi already gave us Missy, the female Master, and some previous episodes had hinted a the possibility of a female regeneration.  So I saw nothing wrong with trying it this way.
For the record, I liked Eccleston, Tennant and Capaldi. Of course, as a child of the 70's, Tom Baker will always be my Doctor.

But then I disliked the first season with the new Doctor, mostly because I just don't buy Jodie Whittaker in the role.
I had the same problem with Matt Smith, but he kinda grew on me and I figured my dislike for his run had more to do with the companions (Rory & Amy).
The diversity of the new companions didn't bother me, as this is what my workplace looks like, and the city I live in, but their characters were a bit underused.

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But I find myself just not really liking a-lot of the new series in total. There are some gems. But the overall feeling was... eh.
This was also my impression.

So I still decided to give the second season another try. (Edit: the New Years 'Special' wasn't really)
Boy, what a waste of time.  Jodie still doesn't convince me as a Time Lord (or as a competent actress) and the blatant political agenda hammering manages to break any interest I could have about the chaotic plots.
I'm gonna see how they finish this season (what's another 45 minutes?), but I probably won't bother with the next season(s) as long as the current show runners don't change.

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« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2020, 11:17:35 PM »
I think they found their footing with the second season with this new Doctor. She seems much more in command of the part now. And I'm having fun with the show.

Bringing in classic Doctor Who bad guys really made a huge difference. Something they didn't do until the end of the first season.

Second season? All classic Doctor Who bad guys all of the time. And they have really made the Cybermen truly terrifying.
 

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« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2020, 09:21:58 PM »
As predicted they retconned all Dr Who lore to hell in order to make it so it was originally a black female.

Sad to see my predictions from when they made The Master female come true.

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« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2020, 08:54:39 AM »
Well in anyone elses hands but Chibnell it could have been fun.

But right out the gate you know you are in for a long brutal war as they start ret-conning the whole history of the Doctor and the Time lords to make this into something fans are more likely to resent than embrace.

So lets get this straight? The first space traveller from Gallefry is a woman, of course. And she finds a kid near a portal to another dimension? And takes her home?
Said kid dies in an accident, and regenerates. Foster mom proceeds to kill and disect said kid over and over until she can give herself and all of Gallefry regeneration?
And she formed the government and apparently alot else. Oh and erased the kids memory of any of this.
Said kid with unlimited regenerations is the very first (minus a few hundred regenerations on the chopping block) Doctor. This new Doctor?

Did I get all that right? Please tell me no because that makes crackhead all sense.
Though to be fair during the Tenanent era they were hinting the Doctor was not really a Time Lord and might be some sort of time god. So who knows. Maybee this is the lesser of two evils? :eek:

I like the actress. I liked Whittacer too. I just hated the stories she was in and the Janeway Sindrom the character seems to suffer. Sadly suspect this new Doctor will not fare any better.

Worse. anyone speaking out will be declared racist.

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« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2020, 09:30:32 AM »
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I just hated the stories she was in and the Janeway Sindrom the character seems to suffer.

What does this mean?

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« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2020, 09:58:35 AM »
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As predicted they retconned all Dr Who lore to hell in order to make it so it was originally a black female.

Sad to see my predictions from when they made The Master female come true.

Dr Who died in the end of Series 10 (Capaldi's run). R.I.P.

Well, the first time we see Doctor Who s/he's a little black girl. We have no idea what s/he was before then.

How much would you bet that, when his/her original species is inevitably introduced, his/her origin will be retconned yet again? I'm guessing that Who will be revealed to be the true queen or chosen one or whatever of the species or something, IDK.

This also makes no sense in its own continuity so far (not that this is saying much, since the show barely has continuity to begin with), since River Song is clear evidence that conceiving in a time machine is what gives you regeneration and the 12 limit is part of that. We also see that Doctor Who was subject to the 12 limit and had to be given extra lives.

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Well in anyone elses hands but Chibnell it could have been fun.

But right out the gate you know you are in for a long brutal war as they start ret-conning the whole history of the Doctor and the Time lords to make this into something fans are more likely to resent than embrace.

So lets get this straight? The first space traveller from Gallefry is a woman, of course. And she finds a kid near a portal to another dimension? And takes her home?
Said kid dies in an accident, and regenerates. Foster mom proceeds to kill and disect said kid over and over until she can give herself and all of Gallefry regeneration?
And she formed the government and apparently alot else. Oh and erased the kids memory of any of this.
Said kid with unlimited regenerations is the very first (minus a few hundred regenerations on the chopping block) Doctor. This new Doctor?

Did I get all that right? Please tell me no because that makes crackhead all sense.
Though to be fair during the Tenanent era they were hinting the Doctor was not really a Time Lord and might be some sort of time god. So who knows. Maybee this is the lesser of two evils? :eek:

I like the actress. I liked Whittacer too. I just hated the stories she was in and the Janeway Sindrom the character seems to suffer. Sadly suspect this new Doctor will not fare any better.

Worse. anyone speaking out will be declared racist.


I find it pretty funny how the vicious psychopath who tortured child Doctor Who and founded Time Lord civilization was a woman. You'd think the libs would use Rassilon and depict him as an evil toxic man (which wouldn't even be character assassination since he's already psychotic, especially if you read the Faction Paradox lore where the Time Lords regenerated themselves into Lovecraftian monsters during the Time War), but no! They depict the torturer as this nice woman who certainly never did anything wrong, certainly not child abuse even though we see her put a child through hell on earth.

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What does this mean?

It means the writers unintentionally depict the hero as a villain most of the time.