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The Orville

Started by Dumarest, September 21, 2017, 11:57:41 PM

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Dumarest

Quote from: Spinachcat;996355Based on the reviews of Orville and Discovery, I am sure to...just play Starcraft instead.

Nah, play FASA Trek! :D

HappyDaze

The amount of humor reminds me of my job IRL. I work at a hospital and there are always serious issues going on, but we throw out snarky quips when we can. Still, my RL job isn't a comedy and neither is Orville. I do like it better than STD though.

Tod13

Watched episode 4. Similar premise to ST:TOS For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky. But handled differently. Episode felt cut short a bit--for example, the political situation was never really resolved.

The sophomoric humor that doesn't really work well for me is finding an even keel, which is good. The humor is fit more into the show and isn't an "insert unrelated joke here" type of writing.

It's a shame the otherwise engaging writing is stunted by the constant "men are stupid, unless they recognize and appreciate superior women" typical of much of US media.

Tod13

Quote from: Koltar;996421Really?? I didn't see any so-called "SJW" material in that episode - and I'm supposedly a conservative asshole according to many on here.
It is a Fun Sci Fi show.
 We kind of need that these days.

- Ed C.

The constant "men are fools or tools" is considered an aspect of SJW media. It's been a drag. For now, I'll watch it for free on fox.com and see if they get over it at all.

kosmos1214

Quote from: Spinachcat;996355Based on the reviews of Orville and Discovery, I am sure to...just play Starcraft instead.

If you want to try some thing with less story or just some thing different Sword of the stars is pretty good.
sjw social just-us warriors

now for a few quotes from my fathers generation
"kill a commie for mommy"

"hey thee i walk through the valley of the shadow of death but i fear no evil because im the meanest son of a bitch in the valley"

Dumarest

Is "Sword of the Stars" the name of a TV show?

kosmos1214

Quote from: Dumarest;997899Is "Sword of the Stars" the name of a TV show?

No a pair of 4x strategy games that are pretty good think sort of like Sid mires civ IN SPAAAAAAAAAACCEEE.
sjw social just-us warriors

now for a few quotes from my fathers generation
"kill a commie for mommy"

"hey thee i walk through the valley of the shadow of death but i fear no evil because im the meanest son of a bitch in the valley"

crkrueger

Quote from: kosmos1214;998207No a pair of 4x strategy games that are pretty good think sort of like Sid mires civ IN SPAAAAAAAAAACCEEE.

I played the hell out of SotS, both of them.  I wish I had the time for a good 4x right now, I have a bunch I'm waiting to play.
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

"Tangency Edition" D&D would have no classes or races, but 17 genders to choose from. -TristramEvans

Anon Adderlan

Conceptually I love it, but find the execution wanting. The acting is wooden, the ship designs (other than #TheOrville itself) are ugly and nondistinctive, and unlike #StarTrek I neither want to live in that universe nor identify with any of the characters. But it took #StarTrek: The Next Generation at least two seasons before finding its voice, and it's likely this will be cancelled long before that.

One thing I find really interesting however is the Critic/Audience discrepancy on #RottenTomatoes, where #TheOrville gets Critic:20% Audience:91%, while #StarTrekDiscovery gets Critic:87% Audience:60%. That's not only extreme between the two shows, but it's especially extreme between the scores on #TheOrville, with a 71% difference!

Quote from: Gwarh;996349The 3rd episode though when full SJW which really turned me off, but I'll keep giving it a chance, at least for the rest of the season.

Again, the premise was excellent, but the execution was sloppy. Instead of focusing on how women and men are essentially interchangeable (in which case it really doesn't matter what gender you are, which invalidates the premise), they should have focused on why those differences matter.

Despite that I still found it to be a pretty damn good episode, but that's also because I can separate politics from my entertainment :)

Dumarest

Quote from: kosmos1214;998207No a pair of 4x strategy games that are pretty good think sort of like Sid mires civ IN SPAAAAAAAAAACCEEE.

Video game or board game? I'd love a good sci fi type board game with replayability, that is, one where there's not just one main way to win.

Dumarest

I will say I'm surprised that Liam Neeson and Charlize Theron have turned up. I guess McFarlane called in some favors.

Tod13

Quote from: Dumarest;999524I will say I'm surprised that Liam Neeson and Charlize Theron have turned up. I guess McFarlane called in some favors.

Interesting. I did not recognize those two actors. LOL I did think that episode 5 was the best so far. (Taken by itself, without baggage I've picked up about the show from other episodes, episode 5 was actually good.)

I do like how the captain always refers to Kitan's feats of strength as "open this jar of pickles for me". It is also nice to see additional interactions among the crew, like with Grayson and Kitan this episode (or the ongoing stuff between Yaphit and Finn).

Koltar

Quote from: Dumarest;999524I will say I'm surprised that Liam Neeson and Charlize Theron have turned up. I guess McFarlane called in some favors.

In the case of Charlize Theron  = they became friends when she did a comedy western with him about two years ago. He asked if she would do the show and she said yes.
With Liam Neeson  - I think its a case of 'wanted to be on Star Trek when it was fun/ but never got to be'.The Orville gives them a chance to be on a fun sci fi show. Also, he had no onscreen credit - that was a total surprise appearance. Often a big name actor will do a 'no credit' appearance so that they affordable to a show and they like the people involved. Years ago, Frank Langella was a two-part "Deep Space Nine" and did not have an onscreen credit.

- Ed C.
The return of \'You can\'t take the Sky From me!\'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUn-eN8mkDw&feature=rec-fresh+div

This is what a really cool FANTASY RPG should be like :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-WnjVUBDbs

Still here, still alive, at least Seven years now...

Dumarest

Turns out both were in his Western comedy:

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Koltar

Quote from: Dumarest;999567Turns out both were in his Western comedy:

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Huh, didn't know Liam was in it. Thanks. In general, before The Orville" show happened I didn't think much of MacFarlane.

- Ed C.
The return of \'You can\'t take the Sky From me!\'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUn-eN8mkDw&feature=rec-fresh+div

This is what a really cool FANTASY RPG should be like :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-WnjVUBDbs

Still here, still alive, at least Seven years now...