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« Reply #1665 on: May 04, 2017, 08:11:43 PM »
Watched The Duel with Ti Lung and David Chiang. Intense knife fights, great story. Had a discussion about it rather than a straight forward review: https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-q8a7c-6a75ef

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« Reply #1666 on: May 05, 2017, 02:31:11 AM »
Finally got to see a subtitled version of an old 60s Russian horror movie called Viy. Saw part of it wayyyy back untranslated as part of a compilation.

Pretty interesting, it a bit slow in the middle, movie about a priest who through a series of mishaps ends up having to deal with a rather persistent witch. Some pretty good costuming and effects and kind of like Evil Dead it flips from humor to horror several times.

Apparently there has been a modern remake. Same name. Totally different plot.

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« Reply #1667 on: May 06, 2017, 04:05:56 AM »
Finally saw Mad Max Fury Road, I was expecting car crashes and explosions with a little acting thrown in and the movie did not disappoint there. Definitely only worth the money if you saw it in the dollar theater and I just don't get why it was proclaimed to be a pro-Feminist movie unless you worship Charlize Theron.
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« Reply #1668 on: May 07, 2017, 07:38:44 AM »
Y'all are saved from a monster 'live-review' of Guardian's of the Galaxy Vol. 2 by the fact that my computer hates me. Seriously, the damn touch pad right in front of teh keypad... which I cannot turn off in any way, seems to interpret my hands being anywhere near the keys as orders to fuck up what I'm doing.

Anyway, in short form: It was good in that tongue in cheek way deconstruction of movie cliches that the first only touched on, though there were some painful running gags, mostly involving Drax the Destroyer, that wore thin very, very fast.  Also: am I not mistaken in my impression that Drax the Destroyer has kicked almost exactly zero ass in two movies now?  

I'll short form, no spoil, it for ya:  this film in one of a handful in recent memory that seems to grasp that great stories have big underlying themes that are not the actual plot.. like how Kirk facing mortality was a big feature of the first Wrath of Khan.  Here the Themes are the importance of family, of belonging and of forgiveness and redemption.

This is fucking Yondu's film.  He owns it.

Little known actresses in supporting roles also crush it, especially the woman playing Mantis. Its an over the top scenery chewing naif role, and she manages to keep it real despite the absurdity. The actress playing Ayesha, the Sovereign High Preistess does a marvellous job with a very understated role, not as impressive by nature, but no less skillful. Both are doing it through absurd amounts of special effects.  I'll give Gunn credit: he can use talent.

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« Reply #1669 on: May 07, 2017, 07:46:26 AM »
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Finally saw Mad Max Fury Road, I was expecting car crashes and explosions with a little acting thrown in and the movie did not disappoint there. Definitely only worth the money if you saw it in the dollar theater and I just don't get why it was proclaimed to be a pro-Feminist movie unless you worship Charlize Theron.




There is a bit of a theory out there that George Miller is old enough and canny enough to have deliberably conned everyone regarding the feminism in Fury Road.  It was not imagined that there was a... or supposed to be a... feminist message in the film, as it was endorsed by at least one prominant feminist (forget who) who was somehow involved in the creation.   Miller clearly doesn't buy the waif-fu shit himself, but clearly was willing to milk the publicity.

There is a whole list of ways that the film seems to deliberately subvert the feminism being crowed about, from Max being able to handily beat Furiosa (and friends) despite suffering a large number of disadvantages to take her truck, to the failure of the Green Land (or whatever it was called), despite being entirely run by women.

The Nostalgia Critic on Youtube has a good middle of the road view on the controversy for this film in his review, as he does for Fem-Ghostbusters.  I don't necessarily agree with all his points in either case, but for a 'I don't take sides' take on the controversy he's got a good read.
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« Reply #1670 on: May 12, 2017, 08:50:03 PM »
Did a review of the New One-Armed Swordsman: https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-2p7mm-6ac2b6

This one isn't really connected to the first in terms of story. David Chiang takes up the title role but is supported by Ti Lung as a fellow hero. The original is a classic but this one is incredibly entertaining and has some cool-ass sword fights (the dual-wielding fight scene at the beginning is pretty awesome).

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« Reply #1671 on: May 14, 2017, 01:50:15 PM »
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There is a bit of a theory out there that George Miller is old enough and canny enough to have deliberably conned everyone regarding the feminism in Fury Road.  It was not imagined that there was a... or supposed to be a... feminist message in the film, as it was endorsed by at least one prominant feminist (forget who) who was somehow involved in the creation.   Miller clearly doesn't buy the waif-fu shit himself, but clearly was willing to milk the publicity.

There is a whole list of ways that the film seems to deliberately subvert the feminism being crowed about, from Max being able to handily beat Furiosa (and friends) despite suffering a large number of disadvantages to take her truck, to the failure of the Green Land (or whatever it was called), despite being entirely run by women.

The Nostalgia Critic on Youtube has a good middle of the road view on the controversy for this film in his review, as he does for Fem-Ghostbusters.  I don't necessarily agree with all his points in either case, but for a 'I don't take sides' take on the controversy he's got a good read.

Eve Ensler. I've opined that the feminism in Fury Road is the kind of "Women are weak and vulnerable victims of everything men do, so men better shape up and be very, very good to women." I'd go so far as to call it Patriarchal Feminism.
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« Reply #1672 on: May 14, 2017, 01:56:39 PM »
Moana
I didn't seek this out. Wound up getting it for mom on Mother's Day and watching it with the family.

The trope of "Plucky princess breaks the rules and saves the day" is getting old now. It had some nice songs, that I've forgotten overnight. A couple of goofy sidekicks that are good for the occasional laugh. It's humor and style are very contemporary, and I suspect won't age well.
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« Reply #1673 on: May 14, 2017, 04:14:13 PM »
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Eve Ensler. I've opined that the feminism in Fury Road is the kind of "Women are weak and vulnerable victims of everything men do, so men better shape up and be very, very good to women." I'd go so far as to call it Patriarchal Feminism.

That almost sounds like a odd feminist rebranding of Chivalry.
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« Reply #1674 on: May 14, 2017, 04:35:21 PM »
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That almost sounds like a odd feminist rebranding of Chivalry.


Some would argue that feminism is chivalry twisted by ideology. I think there's a bit of truth to it.
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« Reply #1675 on: May 14, 2017, 04:50:46 PM »
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Some would argue that feminism is chivalry twisted by ideology. I think there's a bit of truth to it.

Yeah, I can see that especially in light of the attitude some of its male adherents espouse, "White Knighting", etc
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« Reply #1676 on: May 15, 2017, 03:59:00 PM »
Logan: I regret not seeing this movie much sooner than I did. Its still pretty recent so I'll stay far away from spoilers but I have to disagree with some of detractors that felt it wasn't a superhero story. I felt it was, a very moody, more grounded than most superhero story but was one. It didn't feel like a deconstruction like some call it though there is some aspect of that but in the sense of examining how the genre works and can looked at in different ways. The R rating is earned though, its violent, bloody and grim but has heart and some emotional depth and even warmth that's touching. The conclusion, while bittersweet feels like a solid wrap for the character's story. I thought a friend that said it made her cry at the end might have been over reacting but I understand why did.
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« Reply #1677 on: May 17, 2017, 07:14:53 PM »
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« Reply #1678 on: May 17, 2017, 07:28:09 PM »
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Star Trek: Discovery

ME: Michelle Yeoh...
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ME: Michelle Yeoh.
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« Reply #1679 on: May 17, 2017, 10:14:23 PM »
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New Star Trek

Star Trek: Discovery

Looks dreadful.
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