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The Movie Thread

Started by One Horse Town, September 20, 2011, 07:13:34 PM

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Wooster

#2085
December 30, 2017, 10:35:20 PM
Quote from: ThatChrisGuy;1017052Even a great actor can fail under bad direction.  Look at Jeremy Irons, he's usually great, but in the D&D movie he chewed his way through all the scenery.

Wait. What D&D movie?

Bedrockbrendan

#2086
December 30, 2017, 11:07:22 PM
Quote from: Elfdart;1017045I don't think it's supposed to be a great romance, but a bad relationship between a pair of damaged teenagers (he does end up choking her, after all). As you said, the actors are much more likable in other movies, so it's not lack of talent. I'd add that George Lucas writes and directs teenagers very well (sometimes too close to home), as anyone who has seen American Graffiti knows, so it's not like the guy who made Terry the Toad and Debbie (as well as Steve and Laurie) seem plausible and likable couldn't have done it for Anakin and Padme if he wanted it that way. The "romance" in AOTC and ROTS doesn't come across well because it's not supposed to. It's one of the reasons the Emperor comes to power.

Again, I just don't buy it. The whole fall of Anakin is predicated on him wanting to save Padme, so I think you were meant to believe in the love story. It just didn't work because of a lack of chemistry, bad dialogue and bad acting (which could have been a product of circumstances and directing). And even bad romances require good acting and good chemistry. They are not devoid of passion and love, just filled with other complications.

Voros

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December 31, 2017, 02:36:52 AM Last Edit: December 31, 2017, 02:40:37 AM by Voros
Natalie Portman is a good actress (eg. Black Swan) but she is terrible in the SW films because of poor direction. Good point about American Graffiti but clearly the Lucas of the later SW films is a shadow of the director who made that film and THX1138.

The actors of the original films, particularly Guiness, Ford and Fisher, lifted the often poor dialogue (Empire has better dialogue but Lucas either doesn't know or care to capture the 40s-style patter rhythmn correctly) with their screen charisma and I think the same is often true of the new films. Hence the famous story of Ford telling Lucas 'you can type this shit but you can't say it.'

Voros

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December 31, 2017, 02:53:38 AM Last Edit: December 31, 2017, 04:42:44 AM by Voros
Headless, did you say King Arthur: The Legend of the Sword was okay? I just suffered through it, outside of the creepy cthulhusirens it was that uniquely modern problem of super-hectic yet super-boring at the same time. Over edited, over-narrated, too many montages and pedestrian action sequences.

The flacid plotting renders the film the equivalent of reading an entire novel written in the passive voice. Rendering Jude Law as a shitty video game boss for the fight scenes has to be one of the worse ideas in a long time. Ritchie's Sherlock Holmes was suprisingly entertaining and I think The Man from UNKLE was against all odds his best film but this is mind-numbingly mediocre.

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Headless

#2089
December 31, 2017, 11:33:30 AM
@ Voros

I liked it.  Its was weird.  It wasn't deep.  And once you started plotting the beats to the right tune, (Riche London gangster flicks, instead of King Aurthur) it was predictable.  But I liked it.  

The sirens were weird and gross and I don't like gross things, but I liked them.  They felt correct for the setting, the Authoriean part of the setting.  Fey, Unseelie.  

I think I really like that half the movie was an acid trip.

UNCLE was good.  The first Holms, was good.  The second, the one where Moriarty causes ww1 was terrible.

Bedrockbrendan

#2090
December 31, 2017, 12:06:01 PM
Quote from: Headless;1017125I liked it.  Its was weird.  It wasn't deep.  And once you started plotting the beats to the right tune, (Riche London gangster flicks, instead of King Aurthur) it was predictable.  But I liked it.  

That is all that matters in my book.

Headless

#2092
January 02, 2018, 08:36:59 AM
I can read it now.  Wierd.

kosmos1214

#2093
January 03, 2018, 03:45:50 PM
Well over christmas I saw what may very well the best movie version of A cristmas carol I have ever seen and that good sir is saying some thing.
scrooge a christmas carol 1951
It maintains A number of the more important scenes from the book that are all to often cut.
sjw social just-us warriors

now for a few quotes from my fathers generation
"kill a commie for mommy"

"hey thee i walk through the valley of the shadow of death but i fear no evil because im the meanest son of a bitch in the valley"

Headless

#2094
January 03, 2018, 04:34:10 PM
Best version hands down is A Muppets Christmas Carol.
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