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The Movie Thread Reloaded

Started by Apparition, January 03, 2018, 11:10:35 PM

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jhkim

Quote from: Pat on April 22, 2022, 03:49:16 PM
I didn't know this existed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxN1T1uxQ2g

But I want to see it.

(Everything Everywhere All at Once. Michelle Yeoh. Multiverse. Not Marvel.)

I just saw this last week with my girlfriend. I liked it, but I should warn that it's extremely busy - a ton of stuff going on visually, jumping about in time and cutting back and forth. It also jumps around a lot from humor to action to sci-fi to drama. It's clearly intentional as part of the style, but I can see some people finding it overwhelming or off-putting.

I have some quibbles that it does the American action thing with lots of fast cuts to show action instead of the Hong Kong style of really getting to see the martial artist perform. Still, I love Michelle Yeoh and the cast in general is great.

Omega

Quote from: Pat on April 20, 2022, 07:32:14 PM
I finished the Mandalorian.

Wow. I never expected a positive and masculine portrayal of fatherhood from Disney.

Give em time. Failure is the only option now with Disney. If it aint broke. Break it.

Ratman_tf

Quote from: Omega on April 22, 2022, 05:38:54 PM
Quote from: Pat on April 20, 2022, 07:32:14 PM
I finished the Mandalorian.

Wow. I never expected a positive and masculine portrayal of fatherhood from Disney.

Give em time. Failure is the only option now with Disney. If it aint broke. Break it.

I think Mando flew under their radar and when it got popular, it got the attention of certain people.
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
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Trond

Just saw the Northman. Some thoughts:
-Holy shit this was brutal. It does fit the topic though as it is a Germanic/Norse story about revenge.
-I recognized elements from several Norse sagas as well as Hamlet
-Although a bit over the top, it has some goodies for people who are interested in Norse culture. A very nice touch was the tomb the main character enters to find a special sword; the helmet and sword of the old corpse are of the Vendel (pre-Viking) style
-The film was, as a whole, definitely worth watching. It does not feel like anything else coming out of Hollywood lately

Rhymer88

Quote from: Trond on April 30, 2022, 10:37:43 PM
Just saw the Northman. Some thoughts:
-Holy shit this was brutal. It does fit the topic though as it is a Germanic/Norse story about revenge.
-I recognized elements from several Norse sagas as well as Hamlet
-Although a bit over the top, it has some goodies for people who are interested in Norse culture. A very nice touch was the tomb the main character enters to find a special sword; the helmet and sword of the old corpse are of the Vendel (pre-Viking) style
-The film was, as a whole, definitely worth watching. It does not feel like anything else coming out of Hollywood lately

Thanks for the review. What you mention about the tomb scene makes it sound like it's inspired by the Hervarar saga ok Heiðreks and the sword Tyrfing.

Trond

Quote from: Rhymer88 on May 01, 2022, 07:27:48 AM
Quote from: Trond on April 30, 2022, 10:37:43 PM
Just saw the Northman. Some thoughts:
-Holy shit this was brutal. It does fit the topic though as it is a Germanic/Norse story about revenge.
-I recognized elements from several Norse sagas as well as Hamlet
-Although a bit over the top, it has some goodies for people who are interested in Norse culture. A very nice touch was the tomb the main character enters to find a special sword; the helmet and sword of the old corpse are of the Vendel (pre-Viking) style
-The film was, as a whole, definitely worth watching. It does not feel like anything else coming out of Hollywood lately

Thanks for the review. What you mention about the tomb scene makes it sound like it's inspired by the Hervarar saga ok Heiðreks and the sword Tyrfing.

Yes, I was also thinking of Tyrfing. A few things also made me think of Gisli Sursson, but the main plot is that of Amleth/Hamlet.

hedgehobbit

Quote from: Trond on April 30, 2022, 10:37:43 PM
Just saw the Northman. Some thoughts:
<snip>
It does not feel like anything else coming out of Hollywood lately

It was a weird movie and I'm surprised that they put up to $90 million into a movie like this. I enjoyed it at first but the tomb scene really took me out of it.

One question though, I have read that Iceland was heavily forested back when the vikings first settled there. And was only deforested as all the trees were chopped down. Yet in the movie, none of the landscape shots showed any trees.

Trond

Quote from: hedgehobbit on May 01, 2022, 11:02:19 AM
Quote from: Trond on April 30, 2022, 10:37:43 PM
Just saw the Northman. Some thoughts:
<snip>
It does not feel like anything else coming out of Hollywood lately

It was a weird movie and I'm surprised that they put up to $90 million into a movie like this. I enjoyed it at first but the tomb scene really took me out of it.

You know what we would call that in my home country? A "haugvette"= barrow wight. The Lord of the Rings movies did not have those but this one did! 😀 They believed in those in Norway until the early 1900s.

The scene was a bit D&D. I liked it, as I never thought of the movie as realistic per se. But you could say that the movie could not quite decide on realism vs myth. Maybe they should have shown the main characters taking mushrooms a bit more often to explain all the visions.


hedgehobbit

#878
Quote from: Trond on May 01, 2022, 11:37:08 AMBut you could say that the movie could not quite decide on realism vs myth.

[SPOILER WARNING]
This is exactly my issue. The way the scene ended showed that the director just couldn't decide and so he did both. But, later on, the sword was found to have actual magical properties so there isn't a good reason why the fight couldn't have really happened. Taking mushrooms wouldn't explain why no one else could draw the sword during the daytime either.

Trond

One thing I think was captured well was the fact that Norse religion was probably quite similar to "shamanistic" religions elsewhere.

Omega

Jesus Wept. Now they are going after Rendezvous with Rama apparently.

Pat

Quote from: Omega on May 11, 2022, 10:58:10 PM
Jesus Wept. Now they are going after Rendezvous with Rama apparently.
No link or details?

Rama is basically spectacle. The unfolding of a strange environment. Clarke's characters are almost non-existent. There's a ton of room for writers to get creative, but that also can mean there's a ton of room for writers to make their less interesting stories central.

Wrath of God

So to prepare for Doctor Strange and MOM I watched Spider Man and AUNT, and I must say it was kinda mess.

Good acting, generally fine chemistry between actors, but to make plot happened they dropped IQ of both Peter and Stephen dramatically, they cherry picked elements from Raimiverse and Webbverse in incoherent way compared to what should they do, and 90% of pep talks between Peters were REALLY BAD. Not to mention magical solution to cure the day was utterly illogical within estabilished realms.

So generally it was kinda fun, but it's very much MEH when I think about it.
"Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armageddon."

"And I will strike down upon thee
With great vengeance and furious anger"


"Molti Nemici, Molto Onore"

HappyDaze

Quote from: Wrath of God on May 13, 2022, 03:53:18 AM
So generally it was kinda fun, but it's very much MEH when I think about it.
That's been the way with most of the MCU. The trick is to chew on the eye candy and not to think much about it (save that for more thoughtful movies that have less eye candy).

Wrath of God

To certain degree yes. But here the dumbest things sort of goes across whole body of film, in a way that makes it hard to swallow.
I mean I think I can safely say it's dumber than Eternals.
"Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armageddon."

"And I will strike down upon thee
With great vengeance and furious anger"


"Molti Nemici, Molto Onore"