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Re: The Movie Thread Reloaded
« Reply #555 on: June 20, 2021, 12:48:33 PM »
Saw the trailer for it and passed. Seemed like an interesting post-apoc feeling premise. But the trailer I saw was really disjointed. Like I was seeing clips from 3 or 4 different shows. Makes more sense now that some of those must be flashbacks. Just didnt click for some reason.

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« Reply #556 on: June 21, 2021, 12:04:39 AM »
I'm surprised anyone's heard of it, at all. It's a weird little thing.

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« Reply #557 on: June 24, 2021, 04:27:48 PM »
Netflix just put up the first three Gundam movies.
My first exposure to Gundam was an untranslated, bootleg VHS tape that I think was a condensed version, like these films. It's been a long time, so I'm not sure if it's the exact same thing.
Anyway, gonna watch these.

https://www.netflix.com/title/70014611
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« Reply #558 on: June 24, 2021, 07:36:48 PM »
Been bingewatching classic Chuck Norris movies on Prime. Love movies like Lone Wolf McQuade and Octagon. Just finished A Force of One, where he is a karate instructor and champion karate competitor, moonlighting with local law enforcement to take on cop killing drug dealers. By the end of the movie it it becomes personal and that leads to a big showdown with Bill "Superfoot" Wallace. It was made in 1979 and still has some of that 70s grit. These are pretty straightforward types of martial arts action films, with a clear good guy and a somewhat predictable but emotionally rewarding plot. Maybe growing up on this stuff is part of it, but for me this just works.

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« Reply #559 on: June 25, 2021, 08:56:59 AM »
Been bingewatching classic Chuck Norris movies on Prime. Love movies like Lone Wolf McQuade and Octagon. Just finished A Force of One, where he is a karate instructor and champion karate competitor, moonlighting with local law enforcement to take on cop killing drug dealers. By the end of the movie it it becomes personal and that leads to a big showdown with Bill "Superfoot" Wallace. It was made in 1979 and still has some of that 70s grit. These are pretty straightforward types of martial arts action films, with a clear good guy and a somewhat predictable but emotionally rewarding plot. Maybe growing up on this stuff is part of it, but for me this just works.

   Octagon annoyed the shit out of me with him whispering to himself in his head the whole movie.   Lone Wolf McQuade will make a teenager grow chest hair just watching it (I mean, how manly is it to drink a hot beer and then drive your supercharged bronco out from under being buried alive with sheer horsepower and Manliness).  I always loved the fight scene with Chuck and Bill where he kicks the suitcase full of cocaine out of the air in their battle.  I could be remembering that wrong, but I thought it happened just before he beats a coke charged Bill up.   

    You are giving me a nostalgia overload, these are the movies I saw as a kid when they were new. 

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« Reply #560 on: June 25, 2021, 10:08:43 AM »
Been bingewatching classic Chuck Norris movies on Prime. Love movies like Lone Wolf McQuade and Octagon. Just finished A Force of One, where he is a karate instructor and champion karate competitor, moonlighting with local law enforcement to take on cop killing drug dealers. By the end of the movie it it becomes personal and that leads to a big showdown with Bill "Superfoot" Wallace. It was made in 1979 and still has some of that 70s grit. These are pretty straightforward types of martial arts action films, with a clear good guy and a somewhat predictable but emotionally rewarding plot. Maybe growing up on this stuff is part of it, but for me this just works.

   Octagon annoyed the shit out of me with him whispering to himself in his head the whole movie.   Lone Wolf McQuade will make a teenager grow chest hair just watching it (I mean, how manly is it to drink a hot beer and then drive your supercharged bronco out from under being buried alive with sheer horsepower and Manliness).  I always loved the fight scene with Chuck and Bill where he kicks the suitcase full of cocaine out of the air in their battle.  I could be remembering that wrong, but I thought it happened just before he beats a coke charged Bill up.   

    You are giving me a nostalgia overload, these are the movies I saw as a kid when they were new.

It was some kind of square metal box for holding drugs (can't remember if it was coke or powdered heroin---or something else....but exploded in a blast of white powder). That was a cool scene. Basically Bill was on the ground, chuck had just shown mercy at the urging of the detective, and bill then got up and threw the box at Chuck if I recall (just saw it the other day but might be fuzzy on the precise flow of action in that scene). I loved how evil Bill Superfoot Wallace was in that movie.

The whispering never really bothered me too much in the Octagon but I could see that getting on someone's nerves.

I was too young to see a force of one when it came out (was probably 3 years old) but I remember seeing Chuck Norris movies as they came out in the mid-80s and I remember watching films like A Force of One on television (tons of those 70s crime thriller and action movies were on the syndication channels). And we watched a ton of these movies on video at the time. 

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« Reply #561 on: June 25, 2021, 01:39:41 PM »
Been bingewatching classic Chuck Norris movies on Prime. Love movies like Lone Wolf McQuade and Octagon. Just finished A Force of One, where he is a karate instructor and champion karate competitor, moonlighting with local law enforcement to take on cop killing drug dealers. By the end of the movie it it becomes personal and that leads to a big showdown with Bill "Superfoot" Wallace. It was made in 1979 and still has some of that 70s grit. These are pretty straightforward types of martial arts action films, with a clear good guy and a somewhat predictable but emotionally rewarding plot. Maybe growing up on this stuff is part of it, but for me this just works.

   Octagon annoyed the shit out of me with him whispering to himself in his head the whole movie.   Lone Wolf McQuade will make a teenager grow chest hair just watching it (I mean, how manly is it to drink a hot beer and then drive your supercharged bronco out from under being buried alive with sheer horsepower and Manliness).  I always loved the fight scene with Chuck and Bill where he kicks the suitcase full of cocaine out of the air in their battle.  I could be remembering that wrong, but I thought it happened just before he beats a coke charged Bill up.   

    You are giving me a nostalgia overload, these are the movies I saw as a kid when they were new.

It was some kind of square metal box for holding drugs (can't remember if it was coke or powdered heroin---or something else....but exploded in a blast of white powder). That was a cool scene. Basically Bill was on the ground, chuck had just shown mercy at the urging of the detective, and bill then got up and threw the box at Chuck if I recall (just saw it the other day but might be fuzzy on the precise flow of action in that scene). I loved how evil Bill Superfoot Wallace was in that movie.

The whispering never really bothered me too much in the Octagon but I could see that getting on someone's nerves.

I was too young to see a force of one when it came out (was probably 3 years old) but I remember seeing Chuck Norris movies as they came out in the mid-80s and I remember watching films like A Force of One on television (tons of those 70s crime thriller and action movies were on the syndication channels). And we watched a ton of these movies on video at the time.

   I think a big problem for me with the Octagon, is I thought it was a little light on the action ( as a kid watching it) and I probably saw it 20 times on HBO; it always felt like I was watching a whole bunch of whispering to finally see Chuck face off against the Alpha Ninja (not his adopted brother (Sho kiyosoge I think, but dont remember and I dont try to use google to cover memory), but the big one played by I think; Richard Norton? Who if I remember correctly was also a doofus in another role in the same movie) which to me as a kid was a very cool scene. 

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Re: The Movie Thread Reloaded
« Reply #562 on: June 30, 2021, 10:07:29 PM »
Been bingewatching classic Chuck Norris movies on Prime. Love movies like Lone Wolf McQuade and Octagon.

Octagon is pretty good. Lots of quirky characters.

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« Reply #563 on: July 07, 2021, 02:13:13 PM »
I watched Amazon's movie The Tomorrow War with Chriss Pratt and I agree with the general assessment that the time travel part doesn't make any sense.

That got me thinking ... Are there any good time travel movies that actually hold up to scrutiny? Even ones that are serious, like Primer, fall apart of you think about them too much. The only one that seems to work out is The Terminator. Skynet sends back a T-800 and the humans send someone to protect Sarah Connor who ends up being the father of the man that Skynet was trying to get rid of. A nice neat loop that fits together. Of course, it ceases to work with T2.

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« Reply #564 on: July 07, 2021, 02:17:25 PM »
I watched Amazon's movie The Tomorrow War with Chriss Pratt and I agree with the general assessment that the time travel part doesn't make any sense.

That got me thinking ... Are there any good time travel movies that actually hold up to scrutiny? Even ones that are serious, like Primer, fall apart of you think about them too much. The only one that seems to work out is The Terminator. Skynet sends back a T-1000 and the humans send someone to protect Sarah Connor who ends up being the father of the man that Skynet was trying to get rid of. A nice neat loop that fits together. Of course, it ceases to work with T2.

Amusingly enough, I think the whole Back to the Future series manages this. The Time Travel is consistent in how it works, and they don't handwave any of it.

(The T-1000 was the liquid metal one from T2. The T-800 was the model from the first film.)
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« Reply #565 on: July 07, 2021, 02:25:10 PM »
Amusingly enough, I think the whole Back to the Future series manages this. The Time Travel is consistent in how it works, and they don't handwave any of it.

I liked these movies but the idea that a picture would slowly start to disappear because the people in the picture no longer exists is pretty silly. Especially since time travel in these movies create alternate histories so it shouldn't matter to the time traveling Marty if the Marty in that universe doesn't exist.

But you are correct in that at least they are consistent and nobody does anything that's blatantly stupid.

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« Reply #566 on: July 07, 2021, 02:38:31 PM »
Amusingly enough, I think the whole Back to the Future series manages this. The Time Travel is consistent in how it works, and they don't handwave any of it.

I liked these movies but the idea that a picture would slowly start to disappear because the people in the picture no longer exists is pretty silly. Especially since time travel in these movies create alternate histories so it shouldn't matter to the time traveling Marty if the Marty in that universe doesn't exist.

But you are correct in that at least they are consistent and nobody does anything that's blatantly stupid.

I was actually thinking about this point after typing out my reply.

It's consistent in that someone outside of their original time, who has altered history, have a period where the changes are "catching up" to them. When they return to their original time, the changes have caught up. That's why Biff (in the deleted scene) dissapeared when he got out of the Delorean, and Hill Valley was changed both times when Marty returned to 1985.
There are alternate histories, but they replace the current history. Marty coudn't simply return to his 1985, he had to alter events so that his 1985 was the current one.

It's a movie convention, so that Marty could know that history had been changed, and have an opportunity to alter it again, but it's consistent in that he didn't return to his original time to find out. Then it would have been "too late".

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« Reply #567 on: July 08, 2021, 08:19:23 AM »
As you said, Ratman, at least BttF was consistent in how it worked. Even Avengers Endgame managed to fuck it up (Loki's escape should've had all sorts of repercussions).

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« Reply #568 on: July 08, 2021, 10:19:20 AM »
I watched Amazon's movie The Tomorrow War with Chriss Pratt and I agree with the general assessment that the time travel part doesn't make any sense.

That got me thinking ... Are there any good time travel movies that actually hold up to scrutiny? Even ones that are serious, like Primer, fall apart of you think about them too much. The only one that seems to work out is The Terminator. Skynet sends back a T-800 and the humans send someone to protect Sarah Connor who ends up being the father of the man that Skynet was trying to get rid of. A nice neat loop that fits together. Of course, it ceases to work with T2.

Is that in any way related to the Forever War?

I am sure some do, I can't think of any off the top of my head. I try not to be too pedantic with time travel stuff. It something really leaps out immediately as off or as violating the rules they lay out, it bothers me. But its more about what rules they cleave to (like the first bill and ted just seems to have that one big rule that the clock in the present is always running, and they stick to it---in the first movie at least---so that is good enough for me even if they aren't worried about the other time travel issues)

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« Reply #569 on: July 08, 2021, 01:03:24 PM »
I agree the time travel in Tomorrow War didn't really work. For instance, if we use the rafts analogy, how did they make the first jump back in the first place? And they ignore whether events in the present can affect the future, which leads to some really big questions that should be answered but aren't.

But I have a bigger issue with the entire third act. It seems to exist for no reason except to it wants to make all the major characters big heroes, except they don't become big heroes and their actions almost ended the world.