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The Movie Thread Reloaded

Started by Apparition, January 03, 2018, 11:10:35 PM

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Pat

Quote from: hedgehobbit on August 24, 2021, 09:45:19 AM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on August 24, 2021, 08:14:55 AMI've read that working in a mask can be genuinely tricky as it requires a certain amount of over-exaggeration so your body language can transmit what your face normally would. It also requires some specific camera work.

It has worked for characters like Vader, Rorschach, and Deadpool. But for Snake Eyes, part of the appeal of the character is that you don't know what he's thinking or feeling. The producers of the movie could have leaned into that and made Snake Eyes silent through the majority of the film, say infiltrating an enemy compound, and interspersed that with short, targeted flashbacks to explain the character and situation.

But that would have been a risky move. I guess what defines Hollywood today is making the safe choice, but failing anyway.
Vader might have the most distinctive voice in all of cinema, and Rorschach and Deadpool, in very different ways, aren't far behind. And Deadpool in particular conveys a lot through exaggerated body language.

An interesting approach to Snake Eyes might have been to offload his characterization to the supporting cast. Snake Eyes remains an expressionless cipher, but other characters are brought in to express emotion during pivotal moments, which allows the audience to learn who Snake Eyes is through the reactions of others.

Lurkndog

Deadpool is only kind of wearing a mask, they overlay it with CGI to add in some expression.

oggsmash

Quote from: Pat on August 24, 2021, 10:50:38 AM
Quote from: hedgehobbit on August 24, 2021, 09:45:19 AM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on August 24, 2021, 08:14:55 AMI've read that working in a mask can be genuinely tricky as it requires a certain amount of over-exaggeration so your body language can transmit what your face normally would. It also requires some specific camera work.

It has worked for characters like Vader, Rorschach, and Deadpool. But for Snake Eyes, part of the appeal of the character is that you don't know what he's thinking or feeling. The producers of the movie could have leaned into that and made Snake Eyes silent through the majority of the film, say infiltrating an enemy compound, and interspersed that with short, targeted flashbacks to explain the character and situation.

But that would have been a risky move. I guess what defines Hollywood today is making the safe choice, but failing anyway.
Vader might have the most distinctive voice in all of cinema, and Rorschach and Deadpool, in very different ways, aren't far behind. And Deadpool in particular conveys a lot through exaggerated body language.

An interesting approach to Snake Eyes might have been to offload his characterization to the supporting cast. Snake Eyes remains an expressionless cipher, but other characters are brought in to express emotion during pivotal moments, which allows the audience to learn who Snake Eyes is through the reactions of others.

    I think it can be done.  The Boys amazon series has a character, Black Noir, that I think can convey quite a bit just with body posture and how characters around him act and react to him.  Matter of fact Black Noir is basically a super powered Snake eyes/batman already, so for certain it could be done, especially with a good actor to play off of him.

Godfather Punk

Edward Norton managed to convey a lot of emotion, not only by voice but by his body language in Kingdom of Heaven.
I'm sure if King Baldwin had been a mute, he would have pulled that of too.

But again, talent in front and behind the camera...

Godfather Punk

Candyman 2021 is a sequel to the 1992 classic.

I loved the opening credits scene. A variation of those from Devil, but more claustrophobic and definitely not for people who suffer from vertigo.
The music paid homage to Glass' themes but was it's own thing.
The story tells a good horror tale with the required spilling of blood, and what's blood for if not for shedding? Beautiful imagery, good acting and script.
I enjoyed this movie.

It also has Peele's fingerprints all over it, if there was any doubt about that, so if that raises your hackles you will find ample opportunity to rant.

Shrieking Banshee

Watched Seven for the first time with the family.

We came about satisfied with a feeling that this felt like....A deconstruction of deconstructive literature in a way. Its so over the top, but it makes you feel its serious all the way till the end at which point it exposes itself as a farce.

Ratman_tf

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hedgehobbit

#667
Quote from: Ratman_tf on September 01, 2021, 01:04:07 PM
https://collider.com/new-the-rocketeer-movie-remake-disney-plus/

The race swapping isn't a surprise. But what shocks me is that Disney thinks that some throwaway movie from the 90s is a franchise still has potential to be exploited. It sort of mirrors the MCU in how they are really digging deep in their IP library to come up with anything even remotely interesting to reboot.

Omega

The comics the movie is based on still have a following. Despite the bestoefforts of others to drag it down.

The CGI animated series had the right idea. Pass the rocket on to the next generation. His daughter.

Omega

Quote from: Ratman_tf on September 01, 2021, 01:04:07 PM
https://collider.com/new-the-rocketeer-movie-remake-disney-plus/



Outrage marketing. Its intended to get exactly the above reaction. Make fans scream and that will attract the curious. Some will watch it just to see how bad it is. Profit.

hedgehobbit

#670
Quote from: Omega on September 01, 2021, 09:55:48 PMThe CGI animated series had the right idea. Pass the rocket on to the next generation. His daughter.

Ok. The movie makes more sense now. They already sex-swapped the character so they had no choice but to do a race-swap.

Ratman_tf

Quote from: Omega on September 01, 2021, 09:57:07 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on September 01, 2021, 01:04:07 PM
https://collider.com/new-the-rocketeer-movie-remake-disney-plus/



Outrage marketing. Its intended to get exactly the above reaction. Make fans scream and that will attract the curious. Some will watch it just to see how bad it is. Profit.

Making a whole movie around that idea seems like a big investment for a few curiosity watches.
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-Haffrung

David Johansen

It's one of those movies that should never be remade.  I could see sequels but set in and around the WWII period.  It's a period piece and that's very important to its appeal.
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Pat

To the surprise of literally everyone, Shang-Chi is expected to bring in $90 million over the 4-day Labor Day weekend, literally tripling the previous Labor Day Weekend record ($30 million for Halloween in 2007).

https://news.yahoo.com/shang-chi-blows-past-labor-192430392.html

HappyDaze

Quote from: Pat on September 06, 2021, 06:24:41 PM
To the surprise of literally everyone, Shang-Chi is expected to bring in $90 million over the 4-day Labor Day weekend, literally tripling the previous Labor Day Weekend record ($30 million for Halloween in 2007).

https://news.yahoo.com/shang-chi-blows-past-labor-192430392.html
I liked it a lot. Action and humor were both good, and Awkwafina wasn't overdoing the goofiness for laughs (I haven't really liked any of her other works). Effects were nice, and I actually preferred this version of the not-Mandarin and his rings (bracelets) better than the old comic version.