The Mandalorian Season 1

jeff37923 · December 04, 2019, 05:39:03 PM

Quote from: HappyDaze;1115633That's where Disney's Star Wars has bitten me recently. Over the last few years, it has become very hard to reasonably infer the limitations of hyperdrives. For almost every Star Wars RPG, there's going to be a hyperdrive involved fairly regularly, and Disney doesn't care one fucking bit about making it seem consistent.

As far as I have seen, every faster-than-light drive in ANY science fiction show propels the ship at the speed of plot.

jeff37923 · December 04, 2019, 05:40:20 PM

Quote from: HappyDaze;1115638Yeah, but even Rogue One, which I generally regard as a good Star Wars film, had an in-atmosphere hyperspace jump with no time spent putting in calculations. I had at least one player mention that allowing such in a game would destroy every space-based chase scene.

They did it in The Clone Wars series as well.

HappyDaze · December 04, 2019, 06:29:01 PM

Quote from: jeff37923;1115655They did it in The Clone Wars series as well.

I don't recall much from that series. It was OK, but I just don't care much for the cartoons. Still, from what I remember, it was better than Rebels and Resistance, but that might just be time dulling the bad parts. I do recall Maul with a set of spider legs, the magical world of Mortus, and undead Dathomirians... so maybe it isn't worth remembering too closely.

Lurkndog · December 05, 2019, 10:35:09 AM

Quote from: HappyDaze;1115657I don't recall much from that series. It was OK, but I just don't care much for the cartoons. Still, from what I remember, it was better than Rebels and Resistance, but that might just be time dulling the bad parts. I do recall Maul with a set of spider legs, the magical world of Mortus, and undead Dathomirians... so maybe it isn't worth remembering too closely.

Overall I like Clone Wars, but I found it somewhat uneven. There are parts of the show that were a drag to get through.

That said, TCW really redeems the prequel era, IMHO. I particularly like their version of Anakin.

Ratman_tf · December 05, 2019, 12:50:20 PM

Quote from: Lurkndog;1115704Overall I like Clone Wars, but I found it somewhat uneven. There are parts of the show that were a drag to get through.

That said, TCW really redeems the prequel era, IMHO. I particularly like their version of Anakin.

I drifted away from the series during one of the draggy parts. (Don't remember exactly, it's been a while) I do remember thinking that it was the kind of characterization that Anakin needed to make him a sympathetic fallen hero. Film Anakin was just too pointlessley whiney.

Did the series ever go into Anakin and Padme's relationship? I felt the movies really dropped the ball on a whole tangent about their secret marriage and it's implications.

jeff37923 · December 05, 2019, 04:05:13 PM

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1115715I drifted away from the series during one of the draggy parts. (Don't remember exactly, it's been a while) I do remember thinking that it was the kind of characterization that Anakin needed to make him a sympathetic fallen hero. Film Anakin was just too pointlessley whiney.

Did the series ever go into Anakin and Padme's relationship? I felt the movies really dropped the ball on a whole tangent about their secret marriage and it's implications.

To a point. You saw the bits of his personality come out which could be manipulated by Palpitine in several episodes, mostly the anger.

Lurkndog · December 06, 2019, 10:49:05 PM

Episode 5 was fun. Mos Eisley on $15 million a day.

What was that ship the other bounty hunter was flying at the start of the episode?

I don't think it was supposed to be a Z-95.

Spoiler

Not sure what that last scene was about, though.

That wasn't the Mandalorian going back for Fennec Shand. No band of shells around the right boot.

Was that a Jawa I heard in the background?

Ratman_tf · December 06, 2019, 10:56:51 PM

Quote from: Lurkndog;1115875Episode 5 was fun. Mos Eisley on $15 million a day.

What was that ship the other bounty hunter was flying at the start of the episode?

I don't think it was supposed to be a Z-95.

Spoiler
Not sure what that last scene was about, though.

That wasn't the Mandalorian going back for Fennic Shand. No band of shells around the right boot.

Was that a Jawa I heard in the background?

Spoiler

Fans have speculated that it's Boba Fett, due to the sound effect that played. It's identical to the one used in Empire and ANH special edition, during Boba Fett scenes.

But they've re-used a ton of SFX and even dialog from the movies, so it could just be a coincidence.

Lurkndog · December 07, 2019, 09:33:36 AM

One nice detail was that the New Republic apparently doesn't put out "dead or alive" bounties.

Spoiler

Did the Person in Black at the end of the episode use a tracker to find Fennec Shand? If so, does that mean that the trackers don't register dead or alive, or does it mean that Fennec might not be dead after all?

I'm assuming that Mando thought she was dead. He wouldn't have left her otherwise.

Armchair Gamer · December 07, 2019, 10:01:05 AM

Quote from: jeff37923;1115654As far as I have seen, every faster-than-light drive in ANY science fiction show propels the ship at the speed of plot.

I don't think it's the speed that's the issue so much as it is the discarding of any rules about going into or out of hyperspace, or how hyperspace travel affects objects travelling at subluminal velocities. I noticed it in The Force Awakens, and The Last Jedi makes it a central plot point.

jeff37923 · December 08, 2019, 03:46:34 AM

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1115912I don't think it's the speed that's the issue so much as it is the discarding of any rules about going into or out of hyperspace, or how hyperspace travel affects objects travelling at subluminal velocities. I noticed it in The Force Awakens, and The Last Jedi makes it a central plot point.

I'm busy pretending that The Last Jedi never happened....

HappyDaze · December 08, 2019, 06:12:53 AM

So, posting from Florida, I have to say that the Mandalorian has proven himself to be an irredeemably terrible person. No, not for shooting people--that's perfectly OK. No, this asshole left a kid inside a parked spaceship under the heat of two blazing suns! Unforgivable.

Bruwulf · December 13, 2019, 04:17:38 PM

Ok, I admit. I just about fell out of my chair laughing at the "I wasn't a stormtrooper" comeback.

Lurkndog · December 13, 2019, 09:25:06 PM

Also loved Richard Ayoade, AKA Morris Moss, as Zero. (Oddly enough, I'm currently playing a droid in a Star Wars inspired SF game, and my character is named Zero One. He's not a killbot, though.)

Don't know that I really buy Bill Burr as a gunslinger, particularly with those weird holsters dangling around awkwardly on his chest. Though the third robot gun arm was kinda sweet, particularly when shooting around corners.

The really crazy thing is, most of that episode had to have been shot using Stagecraft, their new rear projection super green screen tech. I couldn't tell. (More about the tech here.) I guess that's why they have so many effects artists listed, since most of their sets are virtual.

HappyDaze · December 13, 2019, 10:00:57 PM

I'm already getting tired of this show for two reasons.

Almost everybody has to do some kind of juvenile dominance display upon being introduced.
Almost everybody is going to betray Mando, especially if they have previously performed a juvenile dominance display.

I really wish they could show some edgy folks going about their nasty business without the two above bits. I guess I'd just like to see a little more professionalism among the professional criminal elements rather than the slavish following of overused tropes.