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Author Topic: THE BOOK OF BOBA FETT (Delayed Spoilers)  (Read 18039 times)

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Re: THE BOOK OF BOBA FETT (Delayed Spoilers)
« Reply #120 on: February 14, 2022, 02:12:22 PM »
We all had to know that Disney was not going to let Boba, being a title character, engage in slavery and spice/drug running. That they went extra far by having him go native with the Tuskens and try to rehabilitate all the other nasty dudes (Gammoreans, biker tweens, Krrsantan) into the Tatooine Avengers was the bigger problem. I'm just glad he didn't get Cad Bane to do a heel/face turn too.

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« Reply #121 on: February 14, 2022, 03:18:34 PM »
In their defense, Fett was magically depowered from the end of Mandalorian and had all his testosterone removed in that Bacta Tank and injected into Fennec Shand, who was operating at peak ruthless.

He probably had his balls installed on her when he took her to the cyber clinic, and said "Here, I don't need these anymore. You'll find better use of them here on out now I've replaced my dick with the stick the Tuskens gave me."

RE the show in general: I found it enjoyable and better than most of the stuff Disney has made, other than the Mandalorian, which was far better and more consistent. Here, they focused on making an entertaining show more than something that made sense. It can be enjoyable if you don't think about it too much, but a lot of the stuff wasn't in character and/or didn't make sense. Boba Fett decided to go soft for no apparent reason, and they immediately killed off his Tusken tribe after all the effort they went through establishing them and his training in their stick fighting style, followed by them taking out the Pyke train, his vision quest thing, etc. Then suddenly they get wiped out entirely the the immediate episode, like Tuskens ain't shit in a fight and they didn't cause the Pykes heavy loses the first time around taking down their train.

And how does Boba even run his operation? I know he took over Jabba's palace, but how the fuck does he generate revenue now that he's gone legit and is acting like a glorified sheriff instead of a crime boss, while still calling himself a crime boss (or Daimyo), because...reason?

I didn't necessary hate the cyber gang as much, but I also didn't like them much either. And I couldn't help but think "Who da hell thought giving a gang scooters would look awesome?" I kept thinking "Why da hell is a badass (or at least trying to be badass) cybergang riding freaking scooters? WTF?"

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« Reply #122 on: February 14, 2022, 04:03:05 PM »
Boba has said he has plenty of money. He's never claimed he has any new income. Perhaps he's filthy rich from his previous bounty hunting career and the investments he made (that matured in the five years he spent in the sarlacc).

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« Reply #123 on: February 14, 2022, 04:25:41 PM »

I like the drama of the jetpacks, but tactically, they're floating very slowly around with no cover, very easy targets.
Jetpacks should be used to get from point A to point B quickly without having to worry about terrain, but they should'nt loiter in the air and should find cover once they land.

I liked it too. But they already clearly changed how those jetpacks worked - The Mandalorian flew across an ocean and both the Mando and Cobb Vance flew across a fairly long section of the desert, not to mention the combat scenes in the Mandalorian where they were flying around and using them tactically. Look, I'm saying I just want some consistency. And *NOTHING* in that scene could be worse than landing in the middle of the street in the middle of all that blaster-fire. It was stupid.

Having Grogu come back seems to deflate the drama of him having to leave in the first place. We were told how his power would require training, and now he's left that training.
But what could Luke do? Force Grogu to stay?

Totally agree on the deflation part.

As for what Luke could do? That's a good question - the LORE says the Jedi would not allow such rejects to leave Tython or they were forced into the "Service Corps" for the express purpose of doing "peace-corps" type stuff to prevent them from going Dark Side.

The reality is this precisely why they don't teach kids that are "too old" since the emotional attachment issue has already set in. In reality they need to be going the Darth Kreia route but that's a different discussion.

Luke should have never given him the option. Flat out.

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« Reply #124 on: February 14, 2022, 05:09:54 PM »
As for what Luke could do? That's a good question - the LORE says the Jedi would not allow such rejects to leave Tython or they were forced into the "Service Corps" for the express purpose of doing "peace-corps" type stuff to prevent them from going Dark Side.

The reality is this precisely why they don't teach kids that are "too old" since the emotional attachment issue has already set in. In reality they need to be going the Darth Kreia route but that's a different discussion.

Luke should have never given him the option. Flat out.

We already have one canon and one semi-canon examples of Jedi leaving the order and seeming to not have any restrictions placed on them. Count Dooku and Ahsoka Tano.
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Re: THE BOOK OF BOBA FETT (Delayed Spoilers)
« Reply #125 on: February 14, 2022, 06:02:24 PM »
Just finished the Book of Boring Fett.

Boba Fett: Boring. 
Fennec Shand: Boring.
Gen Z scooter gang: Boring.
Pike Syndicate: Boring
Luke on the Bamboo Planet: Boring

Mando: "Sorry I can't do season 3, my back is sore after carrying Boba Fett's show."
Cobb Vanth: I would have rather seen 7 episodes about this guy issuing parking tickets.

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« Reply #126 on: February 14, 2022, 06:11:45 PM »
Just finished the Book of Boring Fett.

Boba Fett: Boring. 
Fennec Shand: Boring.
Gen Z scooter gang: Boring.
Pike Syndicate: Boring
Luke on the Bamboo Planet: Boring

Mando: "Sorry I can't do season 3, my back is sore after carrying Boba Fett's show."
Cobb Vanth: I would have rather seen 7 episodes about this guy issuing parking tickets.

I guess tastes vary. I found Cobb to be a fine guest character, but in a show full of gunslingers and ronin, hardly a standout.
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« Reply #127 on: February 14, 2022, 06:14:19 PM »
Boba has said he has plenty of money. He's never claimed he has any new income. Perhaps he's filthy rich from his previous bounty hunting career and the investments he made (that matured in the five years he spent in the sarlacc).

So his master plan is to blow his retirement fund running what has to be an expensive AF operation (between paying upkeep for Jabba's Palace and constant Bacta Tank baths for him and everyone who does right by him, plus salaries for all the people that work for him, and ammo and stuff) as a full time charitable venture to clean up a crime infested spice running planet at the edge of civilization?

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« Reply #128 on: February 14, 2022, 06:23:18 PM »
As for what Luke could do? That's a good question - the LORE says the Jedi would not allow such rejects to leave Tython or they were forced into the "Service Corps" for the express purpose of doing "peace-corps" type stuff to prevent them from going Dark Side.

The reality is this precisely why they don't teach kids that are "too old" since the emotional attachment issue has already set in. In reality they need to be going the Darth Kreia route but that's a different discussion.

Luke should have never given him the option. Flat out.

We already have one canon and one semi-canon examples of Jedi leaving the order and seeming to not have any restrictions placed on them. Count Dooku and Ahsoka Tano.

Plus Luke, who was already a full grown ass adult when he became a Jedi and never even joined the Order, yet he's kicking people out for not following strict training protocols he never followed either and weren't even established into canon till the prequels. I always thought a lot of the Jedi and Sith rules that got practically retconned into existence were kinda silly, extreme and unworkable. Kicking out someone who's Force sensitive for having attachments is practically a guarantee they'll turn to the Dark Side eventually, which makes it a counterproductive rule.

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« Reply #129 on: February 14, 2022, 06:28:33 PM »
Boba has said he has plenty of money. He's never claimed he has any new income. Perhaps he's filthy rich from his previous bounty hunting career and the investments he made (that matured in the five years he spent in the sarlacc).

So his master plan is to blow his retirement fund running what has to be an expensive AF operation (between paying upkeep for Jabba's Palace and constant Bacta Tank baths for him and everyone who does right by him, plus salaries for all the people that work for him, and ammo and stuff) as a full time charitable venture to clean up a crime infested spice running planet at the edge of civilization?
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« Reply #130 on: February 14, 2022, 06:48:00 PM »
Boba has said he has plenty of money. He's never claimed he has any new income. Perhaps he's filthy rich from his previous bounty hunting career and the investments he made (that matured in the five years he spent in the sarlacc).

So his master plan is to blow his retirement fund running what has to be an expensive AF operation (between paying upkeep for Jabba's Palace and constant Bacta Tank baths for him and everyone who does right by him, plus salaries for all the people that work for him, and ammo and stuff) as a full time charitable venture to clean up a crime infested spice running planet at the edge of civilization?

  I think you are looking at this the wrong way.   Running charities has been working like dynamite for Bill Gates, I am sure Boba can figure out how to get those administration fees paid.

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« Reply #131 on: February 14, 2022, 06:49:24 PM »
As for what Luke could do? That's a good question - the LORE says the Jedi would not allow such rejects to leave Tython or they were forced into the "Service Corps" for the express purpose of doing "peace-corps" type stuff to prevent them from going Dark Side.

The reality is this precisely why they don't teach kids that are "too old" since the emotional attachment issue has already set in. In reality they need to be going the Darth Kreia route but that's a different discussion.

Luke should have never given him the option. Flat out.

We already have one canon and one semi-canon examples of Jedi leaving the order and seeming to not have any restrictions placed on them. Count Dooku and Ahsoka Tano.

Plus Luke, who was already a full grown ass adult when he became a Jedi and never even joined the Order, yet he's kicking people out for not following strict training protocols he never followed either and weren't even established into canon till the prequels. I always thought a lot of the Jedi and Sith rules that got practically retconned into existence were kinda silly, extreme and unworkable. Kicking out someone who's Force sensitive for having attachments is practically a guarantee they'll turn to the Dark Side eventually, which makes it a counterproductive rule.

  Alot of Jedi rules seem to get changed and ignored and re ruled on and exceptions made, etc all the time. Jedi rules are like tax codes.  Use on people you dont like, and ignore em for people you do like.  People turn to the darkside because jedi are up tight assholes who seem to want to hang around kids a little too much.

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« Reply #132 on: February 14, 2022, 07:26:13 PM »
I enjoyed The Book of Boba Fett for what it was, filler. Disney has a lot of things planned for Star Wars and wasn't prepared for the success of The Mandolorian, so they had to put a few things out to act as filler before the much awaited Kenobi series (Visions and BOBF). This was rushed, but it was rushed by professionals who love Star Wars.

Also, it tied up a lot of loose ends. The love-hate relationship between Cad Bane and Boba Fett has existed since The Clone Wars series, fans wanted an end. Whatever happened to Jabba's criminal empire after ROTJ was also one of those fan questions, tying that together with whatever happened to Boba Fett was clever if a tad unimaginative (with the death of Darth Maul and Crimson Dawn in the control of Q'ira, it would have been interesting to see her take over from Jabba).

Yeah, you can pick it apart and the finale of The Mandalorian was a Hell of a lot better, but it is Star Wars. You should be having a shot and a beer while you watch it.
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« Reply #133 on: February 14, 2022, 08:18:40 PM »
  Alot of Jedi rules seem to get changed and ignored and re ruled on and exceptions made, etc all the time. Jedi rules are like tax codes.  Use on people you dont like, and ignore em for people you do like.  People turn to the darkside because jedi are up tight assholes who seem to want to hang around kids a little too much.

Sith aren't much better.  ;D



I agree. The "rules" didn't seem very well thought out going into the prequels. I never did like the "too old to begin the training" to be more than a half-hearted excuse by Yoda as he was giving in to training Luke. It's like Lucas caught Tarkin Disease somewhere along the way.
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Re: THE BOOK OF BOBA FETT (Delayed Spoilers)
« Reply #134 on: February 15, 2022, 05:26:52 AM »
Plus Luke, who was already a full grown ass adult when he became a Jedi and never even joined the Order, yet he's kicking people out for not following strict training protocols he never followed either and weren't even established into canon till the prequels. I always thought a lot of the Jedi and Sith rules that got practically retconned into existence were kinda silly, extreme and unworkable. Kicking out someone who's Force sensitive for having attachments is practically a guarantee they'll turn to the Dark Side eventually, which makes it a counterproductive rule.

It makes no sense at all. He's starting a new Jedi order when there are going to be loads of prospectives out there who had normal lives before they realised they were Force sensitive. If he expects them all to simply cut out their former lives altogether, he'll have no students.
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