It's Saturday, we are cleared for Boba Fett episode 2 spoilers.

Was I the only one who thought that the brown robe and hood the sandpeople put on Boba made him look like the world's biggest Jawa? I imagine them snickering outside the range of human hearing.

I thought the second episode had even more backstory than the first, which disappointed me, but I have a theory as to why. In the "present day" storyline, they are building up tension, and at some point there's going to be a throwdown. At which point, the question is what kind of an ace does Boba Fett have up his sleeve?

My guess is he'll call in favors from the Tusken Raiders, the Pike Syndicate, and whoever he flashes back to next week.

Boba will become legit daimyo because his allies control all of the territory around Mos Espa.

I really dislike making the Sand People sympathetic. I really liked them as vicious raiders. Full Stop.

But.

The story was well told. So I can give Boba Fett a pass on that. Really, telling the story well is 90% of the battle for me to like something. And I feel like a lot of newer movies and TV shows are dropping the ball in that department.

The CGI lizard was a bit silly looking, snorking up Boba's nose. CGI lets them do things even if the result look cartoonish.

I don't mind the flashbacks. Because, again, they're doing a good job actually telling the story.

Boba Fett... it seems to me like he's gone from an uncaring asshole who was fine with the Empire torturing and freezing Han Solo, disintegrating people, and generally being a not-nice person as long as he was getting paid...  to at least developing some principles. It seems that his time in the Sarlacc is a metaphorical journey to the underworld that has changed him somewhat. Not into a nice guy, but more of a principled anti-hero type.

Quote from: Ratman_tf on January 08, 2022, 08:38:35 PMNot into a nice guy, but more of a principled anti-hero type.

Because writing complicated and evil characters is hard. I would be more interested if it was the journey of an actual goddam bastard.

I take it that I'm the only one who noticed Black Krrsantan, the male of the Twins swabbing himself with a Hoojib, and that the whole Tusken Raider culture is a romanticized look at Indian tribes in Western America (right down to shooting buffalo from a train for sport)?

Quote from: jeff37923 on January 09, 2022, 05:01:51 AM
I take it that I'm the only one who noticed Black Krrsantan, the male of the Twins swabbing himself with a Hoojib, and that the whole Tusken Raider culture is a romanticized look at Indian tribes in Western America (right down to shooting buffalo from a train for sport)?

I thought the wookie looked kickass (definitely a practical effect) but haven't read any comics to recognize him. I did notice that one of the hutts used some kind of a space hamster to swab himself, and a definite yes to the "Tusken are totally american natives" angle. (I've also seen a bunch of comments how "Thank god Boba Fett is played by a Maori so we avoided the 'white savior trope',")

Did you notice that the two humans at Tosche station that the speeder gang were roughing up were Camie and Fixer, two of Lukes old friends?
It's from a scene that ended up on the cutting room floor where Luke goes to tell his friends about a space battle that just happened overhead and he meets Biggs who tells him he is going to join the rebellion.

Quote from: Wntrlnd on January 09, 2022, 06:03:06 AM

Quote from: jeff37923 on January 09, 2022, 05:01:51 AM
I take it that I'm the only one who noticed Black Krrsantan, the male of the Twins swabbing himself with a Hoojib, and that the whole Tusken Raider culture is a romanticized look at Indian tribes in Western America (right down to shooting buffalo from a train for sport)?

I thought the wookie looked kickass (definitely a practical effect) but haven't read any comics to recognize him. I did notice that one of the hutts used some kind of a space hamster to swab himself, and a definite yes to the "Tusken are totally american natives" angle. (I've also seen a bunch of comments how "Thank god Boba Fett is played by a Maori so we avoided the 'white savior trope',")

Did you notice that the two humans at Tosche station that the speeder gang were roughing up were Camie and Fixer, two of Lukes old friends?
It's from a scene that ended up on the cutting room floor where Luke goes to tell his friends about a space battle that just happened overhead and he meets Biggs who tells him he is going to join the rebellion.

No, no I did not. I never made the connection that those two were Camie and Fixer. I thought that Camie was blonde, wasn't she?

Quote from: jeff37923 on January 09, 2022, 06:32:02 AM

Quote from: Wntrlnd on January 09, 2022, 06:03:06 AM

Quote from: jeff37923 on January 09, 2022, 05:01:51 AM
I take it that I'm the only one who noticed Black Krrsantan, the male of the Twins swabbing himself with a Hoojib, and that the whole Tusken Raider culture is a romanticized look at Indian tribes in Western America (right down to shooting buffalo from a train for sport)?

I thought the wookie looked kickass (definitely a practical effect) but haven't read any comics to recognize him. I did notice that one of the hutts used some kind of a space hamster to swab himself, and a definite yes to the "Tusken are totally american natives" angle. (I've also seen a bunch of comments how "Thank god Boba Fett is played by a Maori so we avoided the 'white savior trope',")

Did you notice that the two humans at Tosche station that the speeder gang were roughing up were Camie and Fixer, two of Lukes old friends?
It's from a scene that ended up on the cutting room floor where Luke goes to tell his friends about a space battle that just happened overhead and he meets Biggs who tells him he is going to join the rebellion.

No, no I did not. I never made the connection that those two were Camie and Fixer. I thought that Camie was blonde, wasn't she?

darkhaired. Here's a pic of the cut scene



Naturally they're not using the same actors, but I think they did a good job finding people who looked like them.

Quote from: Ratman_tf on January 08, 2022, 08:38:35 PM
I really dislike making the Sand People sympathetic. I really liked them as vicious raiders. Full Stop.

I don't see any reason they can't be both. Different tribes, different attitudes. American Indians were not all the same.

Boba was lucky to be found by a sympathetic tribe. Others would have tortured him to death for sport.

Quote from: Ratman_tf on January 08, 2022, 08:38:35 PM
The CGI lizard was a bit silly looking, snorking up Boba's nose. CGI lets them do things even if the result look cartoonish.

I just immediately thought Babel Fish.

I'm not a big fan of the peyote=prophecy trope either. Though the idea of him coming back with a physical piece of the dream in his hands was kind of cool.

Quote from: Lurkndog on January 09, 2022, 11:06:07 AM

Quote from: Ratman_tf on January 08, 2022, 08:38:35 PM
I really dislike making the Sand People sympathetic. I really liked them as vicious raiders. Full Stop.

I don't see any reason they can't be both. Different tribes, different attitudes. American Indians were not all the same.

Boba was lucky to be found by a sympathetic tribe. Others would have tortured him to death for sport.

They pretty much state that "other tribes kill to survive" in the scene in the tent after the trainrobbery, showing that they are different from them.

Quote from: Wntrlnd on January 09, 2022, 06:03:06 AM

Quote from: jeff37923 on January 09, 2022, 05:01:51 AM
I take it that I'm the only one who noticed Black Krrsantan, the male of the Twins swabbing himself with a Hoojib, and that the whole Tusken Raider culture is a romanticized look at Indian tribes in Western America (right down to shooting buffalo from a train for sport)?

I thought the wookie looked kickass (definitely a practical effect) but haven't read any comics to recognize him.

I really liked that part. I don't know the character, but so far Wookies have been portrayed as more on the Good Guy side. It's neat to see a Bad Guy Wookie for a change.

Quote from: Ratman_tf on January 09, 2022, 08:50:55 PM
I really liked that part. I don't know the character, but so far Wookies have been portrayed as more on the Good Guy side. It's neat to see a Bad Guy Wookie for a change.

Chances are pretty good that we'll be seeing more of him later this season. That was just a taste.

It's Wednesday, and Episode 3 is out. It is VERY VERY GOOD.

No spoilers until Saturday. I will probably rewatch this episode several times between now and then.

Quote from: Lurkndog on January 12, 2022, 07:58:10 AM
It's Wednesday, and Episode 3 is out. It is VERY VERY GOOD.

Kick ass. It'll be tonight's Exercise Bike Theater.

Not a spoiler at this point, but does anyone else pictures the dwarves from the hobbit singing when the song plays for the end credits?

Solid episode. This is what I like (remember no spoilers till sat) expanding on the Star Wars universe while keeping it Star Wars.