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Title: Telling the truth about Islam gets you banned, but racist cracks about the japanese
Post by: Dominus Nox on December 14, 2006, 04:23:26 PM
are okidokie, apparently, with Steve Jackson and his modclique.

Here's a link to a thread about "Jap aviation quality", and yes, the poster used the term "Jap" in the title:http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=22341

Let's see now, users have been banned for saying things about islam oppressing free speech because, somehow, that was 'RACIST!!!" despite the fact tha tislam is a religion and not a race, but calling japanese people "japs" isn't a bannable offense.

Oh well, I guess you have to be texan to understand what's "RACIST!!!" and what isn't, like jackson, his 'friend' hackard and so on.....
Title: Telling the truth about Islam gets you banned, but racist cracks about the japanese
Post by: rcsample on December 14, 2006, 04:26:46 PM
Quote from: Dominus NoxSnipped for brevity...

Shine on you crazy diamond!
Title: Telling the truth about Islam gets you banned, but racist cracks about the japanese
Post by: Christmas Ape on December 14, 2006, 04:31:09 PM
Quote from: Dominus Nox...:rant:...

You polish that thing and make it shine, man.
Title: Telling the truth about Islam gets you banned, but racist cracks about the japanese
Post by: Mr. Christopher on December 14, 2006, 05:08:44 PM
Dammit, I thought this was going to be a thread about "B.C."...

November 10, 2003:

(http://content.imagesocket.com/images/bc_islam40a.gif) (http://imagesocket.com/view/bc_islam40a.gif)

December 7, 2006:

(http://content.imagesocket.com/images/bc_japana51.gif) (http://imagesocket.com/view/bc_japana51.gif)
Title: Telling the truth about Islam gets you banned, but racist cracks about the japanese
Post by: Kyle Aaron on December 14, 2006, 05:14:00 PM
Change your sig to something game-related, you mad fucker.
Title: Telling the truth about Islam gets you banned, but racist cracks about the japanese
Post by: beejazz on December 14, 2006, 05:15:54 PM
What you tend to say about Islam is incorrect, biggoted and about eight shades of stupid...

...but it isn't racist. Because Islam is all the fuck over the map. Outnumbering Christianity... what is it? Threefold now? All over Africa, the Middle East, Southeast Asia... everywhere.

So yeah, not all biggotry is racist.
Title: Telling the truth about Islam gets you banned, but racist cracks about the japanese
Post by: RPGObjects_chuck on December 14, 2006, 05:29:17 PM
So wait... you continue to read a forum you've been BANNED from, hoping to find someone MORE deserving of being banned than you, who wasn't.

Then you start a thread here about that?

Is that what this is about?
Title: Telling the truth about Islam gets you banned, but racist cracks about the japanese
Post by: Casey777 on December 14, 2006, 06:19:06 PM
It's a thread about WWII planes, on another forum, and this thread, like you an increasing amount of the time, has fuckall to do with gaming or this site.

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The sock puppets, asshatry, and general disobeying of the rules on what is afterall the free public forum of a *company* (as in they have a private forum that isn't free, the free forum is a courtesy only) had not a thing to do with your banning(s). Uh-huh. Pull the other finger, it has bells on it.

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Title: Telling the truth about Islam gets you banned, but racist cracks about the japanese
Post by: apparition13 on December 14, 2006, 08:54:14 PM
Quote from: beejazzWhat you tend to say about Islam is incorrect, biggoted and about eight shades of stupid...

...but it isn't racist. Because Islam is all the fuck over the map. Outnumbering Christianity... what is it? Threefold now? All over Africa, the Middle East, Southeast Asia... everywhere.

So yeah, not all biggotry is racist.
All the fuck over the map, yes, but number two, and by quite a bit.
Interesting to see who's at three as well.
From Adherents.com (http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html)
QuoteSizes shown are approximate estimates, and are here mainly for the purpose of ordering the groups, not providing a definitive number. This list is sociological/statistical in perspective.)
Christianity: 2.1 billion
Islam: 1.3 billion
Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 1.1 billion
Hinduism: 900 million
Chinese traditional religion: 394 million
Buddhism: 376 million
primal-indigenous: 300 million
African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million
Sikhism: 23 million
Juche: 19 million
Spiritism: 15 million
Judaism: 14 million
Baha'i: 7 million
Jainism: 4.2 million
Shinto: 4 million
Cao Dai: 4 million
Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million
Tenrikyo: 2 million
Neo-Paganism: 1 million
Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand
Rastafarianism: 600 thousand
Scientology: 500 thousand
And Cruise and co. bringing up the rear.

(Just being pedantic.)
Title: Telling the truth about Islam gets you banned, but racist cracks about the japanese
Post by: beejazz on December 14, 2006, 09:01:04 PM
Quote from: apparition13Snip informative stuff.
Wow. So I guess it was the majority country-wise? Not that it would matter, given the sizes of said countries.

Also, I notice an absence of Mormonism. They just counted as another Christian sect?

EDIT: Zoroastrianism beats neopaganism. That makes me happy.
Title: Telling the truth about Islam gets you banned, but racist cracks about the japanese
Post by: RPGPundit on December 15, 2006, 01:55:27 AM
Yes, these stats lump pretty much every denomination of a particular faith together; and there's nothing wrong with that, though I do believe there are more sunni muslims in the world than any other denomination (though that is also deceptive, since there are many groups in Sunni Islam that could be divided into different "denominations" too).  Catholics are by far the largest denomination in Christianity.

Also, the 1.1 billion "atheists" is only if you count China's population as being "atheist", which they are officially, but that's pretty well by government decree, and in practice many people who are listed as "atheists" by Chinese nationality actually practice Buddhism, Taoism, Confucianism, or any combination of the three put together. There are also potentially as many as 100 million practitioners of Falun Gong, though that number is probably a gross overestimation.  Even so, there's probably more Falun Gong practitioners in the world than there are Scientologists at the very least, and that 500k figure for Scientology is also a gross exaggeration.

RPGPundit
Title: Telling the truth about Islam gets you banned, but racist cracks about the japanese
Post by: JongWK on December 15, 2006, 07:25:30 AM
Wait a minute, Juche is listed as a religion?
Title: Telling the truth about Islam gets you banned, but racist cracks about the japanese
Post by: Hastur T. Fannon on December 15, 2006, 07:43:55 AM
Quote from: JongWKWait a minute, Juche is listed as a religion?

I thought it was a citrus fruit.  There were a couple of others on that list I had to wiki, despite me being a theology geek
Title: Telling the truth about Islam gets you banned, but racist cracks about the japanese
Post by: Kyle Aaron on December 15, 2006, 07:49:00 AM
In the Aussie census it's listed as a religion, too. We have zero adherents of it, though.

The Adherents.com site from which apparition13's figures came describes Juche as a religion here (http://www.adherents.com/largecom/Juche.html). For those brave enough, there's a site here, International Institute of the Juche Idea (http://www.cnet-ta.ne.jp/juche/defaulte.htm).

The line between "religion" and "life philosophy" is a pretty blurry one, I reckon. But if a "life philosophy" takes up a person's entire life, dominating every aspect of it day-to-day... that seems pretty religious. Religions also usually have prophets, and Kim Il-Sung certainly fits that role in North Korea. When couples marry, they visit a statue of him to pay their respects; in this way, he's treated like someone in Chinese or Japanese ancestor worship, like a buddha, or a Christian saint. Kim Il-Sung has been declared President forever, despite his death. Their new dating system comes from his date of birth - like Jesus.

I think there's a good argument for consider Juche as a religion. It takes up their whole lives, has a prophet who's worshipped and considered immortal, and they count the years from his birth... sounds like a religion to me.
Title: Telling the truth about Islam gets you banned, but racist cracks about the japanese
Post by: Sosthenes on December 15, 2006, 08:17:24 AM
I'd also like to add that "Juche" is German for "yippy!". Add an "a" and you get "Jauche", i.e. manure. But please don't jump to conclusions...
Title: Telling the truth about Islam gets you banned, but racist cracks about the japanese
Post by: Spike on December 15, 2006, 12:24:16 PM
Traditional, the anthropological definition of a religion is essentially a school of thought or philosophy that deals with the afterlife... though this leave confucionism flapping in the breeze.  Scholarly sorts in Japan certainly, and presumably China consider Confucionism to be 'religious', though it is more of a 'way of life' than anything else.

Yes, I said Japanese. Yes, I know Confucious was Chinese.  I have to go with my sources.
Title: Telling the truth about Islam gets you banned, but racist cracks about the japanese
Post by: James McMurray on December 15, 2006, 12:37:17 PM
How is this (http://www.timecube.com/) classified, and how many followers does it have?
Title: Telling the truth about Islam gets you banned, but racist cracks about the japanese
Post by: Garry G on December 15, 2006, 10:20:43 PM
So it's not racist to call Dominus Nox a glaikit cunt?

Noxboy you are a glaikit cunt!
Title: Telling the truth about Islam gets you banned, but racist cracks about the japanese
Post by: J Arcane on December 15, 2006, 10:53:56 PM
Quote from: Garry GSo it's not racist to call Dominus Nox and glaikit cunt?

Noxboy you are a glaikit cunt!
It's not racist, it's the right thing to do.
Title: Telling the truth about Islam gets you banned, but racist cracks about the japanese
Post by: beejazz on December 15, 2006, 11:23:44 PM
Nothing to see here.

(posted to wrong thread)
Title: Telling the truth about Islam gets you banned, but racist cracks about the japanese
Post by: apparition13 on December 15, 2006, 11:29:22 PM
Quote from: beejazzWow. So I guess it was the majority country-wise? Not that it would matter, given the sizes of said countries.
I didn't see a map, but it would be the Western Hemishere + most of Europe + Russia? + part of Africa vs. the Middle East + Northern and Eastern Africa + parts of Malaysia and Indonesia. I'd guess Christian countries would outnumber Muslim ones, but I'm not sure
QuoteAlso, I notice an absence of Mormonism. They just counted as another Christian sect?
Yup.
QuoteEDIT: Zoroastrianism beats neopaganism. That makes me happy.
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