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Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: Serious Paul on July 27, 2007, 03:07:04 PM
That's kind of interesting. (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1565683/20070726/story.jhtml)
Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: Koltar on July 27, 2007, 03:13:57 PM
Quote from: Serious PaulThat's kind of interesting. (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1565683/20070726/story.jhtml)


 Gives a whole new meaning to "Vulcan Mind Meld".


- Ed C.
Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: Ian Absentia on July 27, 2007, 03:19:40 PM
Don't you mean, "Intriguing"? :raise:

Any further rumors on who will play any of the other charactes?  Personally, I favor Gary Sinese for "Bones" McCoy.

!i!
Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: Serious Paul on July 27, 2007, 03:26:47 PM
I heard Matt Damon turned down an offer for Kirk, but that's unconfirmed.
Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: Werekoala on July 27, 2007, 03:27:22 PM
Yes, Sinese would be a perfect Bones. Same mannerisms, accent, eye-bags. :)

And I think Sylar as Spock is inspired, actually. I never even though about it but as soon as I heard it I saw them side-by-side in my head and went "Yup".
Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: Sosthenes on July 27, 2007, 03:33:25 PM
I'll probably be disappointed big time, but I have high hopes for this movie. I hope they get the right actors for the rest of the crew. And yes, Sinise would be great. Even if he's older than Kelly when they filmed TOS, he certainly could do the younger McCoy look. Matt Damon I never was quite sure about. I like the guy, but he doesn't project the smarminess of Kirk. Actually, his buddy Affleck wouldn't be half bad ;)

(And if the movie contains the Triskelion fighting music, I'll cry like a baby)
Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: David R on July 27, 2007, 08:35:11 PM
I think Zachary Quinto (Sylar) as Spock is a good choice. I'd like to see Mark Addy as Scotty.

Regards,
David R
Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: Sosthenes on July 27, 2007, 09:05:33 PM
In completely unrelated casting news: Ray Stevenson (Rome's Titus Pullo) will be the next Punisher.
Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: Serious Paul on July 27, 2007, 09:08:20 PM
Seriously?

Wow that's kind of cool. Wonder what happened to Thomas Jane-I mean he was all enthusiastic about the role. Wonder what changed?
Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: David R on July 27, 2007, 09:17:47 PM
Quote from: Serious PaulWonder what changed?

The movie...it was that crappy. Seriously at least the Dolph Lundgren version had the line "...we were the most powerful crime families in Asia while you were farmboys fucking sheep in the Mediterranean" or something like that.

Regards,
David R
Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: Sosthenes on July 27, 2007, 09:21:31 PM
Nah, Jane liked the first movie (as did I), and he was very, very enthusiastic about a follow-up. But last I heard, there were some major creative differences and he just pulled out. More info from the usual fat film fanatics. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/32673)

Interesting fact: His current project is a Mutant Chronicles movie. Also including Ron Pearlman. Excited?
Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: David R on July 27, 2007, 09:24:26 PM
Quote from: SosthenesExcited?

Hell yeah :D

(Don't get me wrong, Jane was a good Frank Castle...just that I think the film wasn't very good, IMO)

Regards,
David R
Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: Serious Paul on July 27, 2007, 09:24:55 PM
Huh.

Well the first (Remake) certainly wasn't Oscar material, I hope they do the second a little more justice. Or at least just stick with the action!
Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: Sosthenes on July 28, 2007, 09:09:58 AM
What I liked about the first one was the focus on low-budget action. No over-the-top computer effects, just decent mano-a-mano slugfests and lots of bullets. This was a movie in the vein of Bronson and Eastwood, not the current crop of Michael Bay action-blockbusters. Tom Jane did a very good job, too, in my opinion the best superhero adaption until Bale's Batman.
They should've kept to the original story, though. The one with the female maffia boss who gets fed to tigers. Much better villain than Travolta...

I'm not really sure about Pullo. I don't think I've seen the actor outside of Rome. He has a decent stubble going on and certainly can be mean. But there always was some kind of naivety in his face, something that doesn't quite fit for the Punisher. Some of that was attached to the role of Titus Pullo, but part of it came from Stevenson's looks.

BTW, I think that Tom Jane would make a great Captain America, if they ever decide to start filming that movie...
Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: Serious Paul on July 28, 2007, 09:43:35 AM
Really?

He just doesn't say Captain America to me at all. Face is all wrong to me.
Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: Stumpydave on July 28, 2007, 10:16:24 AM
The trouble with both Punisher films is they allow Frank Castle to avenge the deaths of his family - and then he carries on killing.  So he's as bad as they are.  
The comic origin differed in that he can never avenge them because he doesn't know who killed them beyond "Mob goons", so he goes on and on until they (the mob and their like) are all gone and he's won, or he's dead and it doesn't matter anymore.  

Much more tragedy and depth to be plumbed from the comic take than the movies insistence to have it all wrapped up within 2hrs.
Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: Sosthenes on July 28, 2007, 10:57:03 AM
I have to agree with that. Same problem with the Batman movies.
Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: David R on July 28, 2007, 10:57:26 AM
Koltar, what do you think of the casting for Spock?

Regards,
David R
Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: Sosthenes on July 28, 2007, 11:08:54 AM
Hmm. So this is a TOS "prequel"... How will the Klingons look like?
Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: Koltar on July 28, 2007, 11:33:04 AM
Quote from: David RKoltar, what do you think of the casting for Spock?

Regards,
David R

 As long as he does a good job and the script is good - then it might be worth seeing.
I'm one of those that like "LOST", and thinks that Mission Impossible III would've been better without Tom Cruise.

I'm kind of jaded on TREK.  (Believe it or not)

Hoping it will be worth 7 to 8 bucks when it gets to the screen.


- Ed C.
Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: Serious Paul on July 28, 2007, 12:04:39 PM
I enjoyed Lost (I'm not sure it's formula is the one to copy or mimic here...) , and I'm certainly no Tom Cruise fan, or for that matter a die hard Trek fan-I lost interest right after TNG-but I'd like to see what they'll do.

I'm a sucker for seeing how they reinvent a franchise. It's why I'll see the next Hulk movie, and Punisher movie.
Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: Sosthenes on July 28, 2007, 12:09:40 PM
Speaking of reinvented franchises: Dark Knight Teaser (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=15813).

"Some people just like to watch the world burn"

*nerdgasm*
Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: Serious Paul on July 28, 2007, 12:36:37 PM
You are my new bestest friend. That's sweet.
Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: shewolf on July 29, 2007, 04:15:13 AM
Heard that Nimoy's going to be in the movie too. Mom didn't recall where she hears it, though, and I can't seem to google a source. But that makes me happier. Sylar just isn't making me want to go see the new movie.
Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: Tyberious Funk on July 29, 2007, 09:44:23 PM
Oooooo....  Zach Quinto.  Good choice.
 
I thought Matt Damon was a good choice for Spock.  But at the same time, I think casting a really BIG name actor is probably a bad idea.  If the franchise reboot is a success, you want all the main characters to be prepared to stick around.
 
So someone like Quinto is an excellent choice - he has a moderate profile due to his work on heroes, but he's hardly a mega star.  And Gary Sinese as Bones is... visually speaking at least... perfect, just perfect.
Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: Ian Absentia on July 30, 2007, 01:02:25 AM
Quote from: Tyberious FunkAnd Gary Sinese as Bones is... visually speaking at least... perfect, just perfect.
Beyond mere visuals, Gary Sinese is capable of conveying that extreme ernestness that was so integral to the character.  I think the intensity he could bring to the portrayal would be more important than simple appearance.  As for the age discrepancy between Sinese and the other (presumed) actors, I always had the impression that Bones, though being a very good friend of Kirk's, was considerably older and not exactly a contemporary.  Remember that Kirk was a prodigy, the youngest person to ever captain a starship in Federation history*, so pretty much everyone is older than him.

!i!

(*Well, until ST:tNG trumped him by a year with a throw-away character -- both a woman and black -- was introduced in a single episode.  Bah!  Whatever.)
Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: Koltar on July 30, 2007, 01:12:57 AM
We know that J.J. Abrams likes to re-use actors..... SO, the possibility of Nathan Fillion showing up is a good one. (He guest-starred on "LOST" last season)

What part should Terry O'Quinn play ? (The guy that plays Locke) On  "Alias" he played a recurring character and on ST:TNG he played a starfleet admiral.


- Ed C.
Title: Sylar to play Spock?
Post by: Tyberious Funk on July 30, 2007, 02:27:47 AM
Quote from: Ian AbsentiaBeyond mere visuals, Gary Sinese is capable of conveying that extreme ernestness that was so integral to the character. I think the intensity he could bring to the portrayal would be more important than simple appearance. As for the age discrepancy between Sinese and the other (presumed) actors, I always had the impression that Bones, though being a very good friend of Kirk's, was considerably older and not exactly a contemporary. Remember that Kirk was a prodigy, the youngest person to ever captain a starship in Federation history*, so pretty much everyone is older than him.

Agreed on both points. I think Sinise would be a great actor to play McCoy. And yes, I think Bones was supposed to be a bit older the Kirk. At the very least, Deforest Kelly was older than Shatner (ten or eleven years I believe). Gary Sinise is about 15 years older than Matt Damon, but he looks pretty good for his age. Having said that, I don't think Damon would ever seriously consider the role.