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Star Wars

Started by Headless, April 02, 2018, 02:44:46 PM

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Just Another Snake Cult

People can hate on The Last Jedi all they want, but I really wish Solo had taken half as many risks as it did.

Ironic that a film about a daredevil played things so close to the vest. There was literally nothing in it that surprised me. Even the surprise cameo at the end felt very much like calculated "Fan service".
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Headless

I just watched it.  Who was the suprise cameo at the end?

JRT

Quote from: Headless;1042707I just watched it.  Who was the suprise cameo at the end?

Spoiler
I don't know if you've watched the prequel trilogy or not, but Darth Maul, the apprentice to Darth Sideous (aka "The Emperor" before he was that role), appeared as the leader of the criminal organization via hologram.

If you've watched the 2008 Clone Wars series or the Rebels series, you know he survived and did a lot of things between then and before "A New Hope" but anybody who only saw the movies would believe he fell down a long shaft to his death after fighting Obi-Wan Kenobi, so it is more shocking that he shows up here.
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Spinachcat

Did the TLJ director just shit himself against the SW fandom again? Or is there a legitimate gripe going on or just more drama?

Aglondir

Quote from: Spinachcat;1042881Did the TLJ director just shit himself against the SW fandom again? Or is there a legitimate gripe going on or just more drama?

Not sure what you mean... "Solo" was directed by Ron Howard; TLJ was directed by Rian Johnson.

Spinachcat

I saw a headline about Rian calling SW fans' "manbabies" for some Twitter drama. I wondered if it was a legitimate gripe or Rian just doing more to tank the franchise. Because with Solo tanking, I would think letting Twitter chill would be the safest financial bet.

Headless

Quote from: JRT;1042751
Spoiler
I don't know if you've watched the prequel trilogy or not, but Darth Maul, the apprentice to Darth Sideous (aka "The Emperor" before he was that role), appeared as the leader of the criminal organization via hologram.

If you've watched the 2008 Clone Wars series or the Rebels series, you know he survived and did a lot of things between then and before "A New Hope" but anybody who only saw the movies would believe he fell down a long shaft to his death after fighting Obi-Wan Kenobi, so it is more shocking that he shows up here.

Oh right him.  Yeah I thought that was pretty cool.  Do you know if it was the same actor?

Just Another Snake Cult

Quote from: Headless;1042902Oh right him.  Yeah I thought that was pretty cool.  Do you know if it was the same actor?

Sorta. Face was
Spoiler
Ray Park's
but the voice was done by the guy who did it on the cartoon.
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Aglondir

Quote from: Spinachcat;1042900I saw a headline about Rian calling SW fans' "manbabies" for some Twitter drama. I wondered if it was a legitimate gripe or Rian just doing more to tank the franchise. Because with Solo tanking, I would think letting Twitter chill would be the safest financial bet.

Is it this article?

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/06/rian-johnson-response-kelly-marie-tran-instagram

TLDR: Kelly Marie Tran (the Vietnamese-American actress who played Rose in TLJ) has deleted all of her Instagram posts due to racist/misogynistic comments. Rian calls the commenters Manbabies.

Headless

Thats shitty.  Rose was a great character.

Ratman_tf

Quote from: Aglondir;1043040Is it this article?

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/06/rian-johnson-response-kelly-marie-tran-instagram

TLDR: Kelly Marie Tran (the Vietnamese-American actress who played Rose in TLJ) has deleted all of her Instagram posts due to racist/misogynistic comments. Rian calls the commenters Manbabies.

AFAIK Tran hasn't commented on why she took down her twitter. It might be that she took it down due to harassment, but the news blogs are only speculating at this point.
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Spinachcat

I like Tran and the Rose character, but I don't trust media reports because its 99% bullshit. If Tran was subject to actual online harassment, that's unfortunate and utterly lame, but considering we live in a time where any disagreement with the SJW agenda equates to a stream of -ists, color me skeptical.

Also, social media is a cesspool and if you're on Farcebook, Twitter or whatever, you are dancing in a shithole so don't be surprised when you get drenched in assjuice.

Actors (and other clowns) go online for praise, adulation and a mistaken belief their celebrity gives them a voice on issues that should not be criticized. Unless an entertainer is talking about entertainment, their topic expertise becomes that of any other chuckle monkey with a keyboard.

That said, Finn should have died destroying the big gun or Rose should have died saving Finn. Either would have been a good and heroic death.

jeff37923

Quote from: Spinachcat;1043083That said, Finn should have died destroying the big gun or Rose should have died saving Finn. Either would have been a good and heroic death.

Much agreed.
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Aglondir

Quote from: Headless;1043062Thats shitty.  Rose was a great character.

Indeed. There were many lousy things in TLJ, but Rose was not one.

Warboss Squee

Quote from: Aglondir;1043040Is it this article?

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/06/rian-johnson-response-kelly-marie-tran-instagram

TLDR: Kelly Marie Tran (the Vietnamese-American actress who played Rose in TLJ) has deleted all of her Instagram posts due to racist/misogynistic comments. Rian calls the commenters Manbabies.

People are also claiming the same thing happened to Daisy Ridley, which denied it (but let's just ignore her, right?), so I'm waiting to hear from Tran herself.