Well, gee whiz, Darth was born there.

And "every" event? Didn't like Palpatine literally throw the senate at the little green guy (jeesuz I'm bad at names) on a planet that was NOT Tattooine (and I remember that name...). I'm pretty sure that would count a historically significant event in the Star Wars universe.

Don't get me wrong, I don't have much in the way of hope for the new movie, except, of course, Abrams' ridiculously good track record, but easy on the hyperbole.

Edit: YODA! Finally. Geez.

Quote from: RPGPundit;801678Not the same thing at all.  Tattoinne is not "important" because of a whole series of tactical, strategic, or geographical values, it was neither the seat of an empire nor a place with vital resources, not a place that was vitally 'in the way'.
At this point, it would be as though all the major events and characters of World War I, WWII, Korea, Vietnam and Gulf Wars I & II had somehow been involved with the town of Medicine Hat, Canada.



Since neither I nor the Jedi would fall under the category of 'chaos magicians', you must be some variety of fucking idiot.  But hey, when you're scared he's right, Attacking the Man is always the way to go, isn't it?

Admit it: you can see. Bullshit Utterly Bland Nostalgia-For-Its-Own-Sake is our destiny.

Wait, why are you The Man in this scenario again?  Because it's your forum?  Or is it short for 'The Man Who Takes Silly Shit* Way Too Seriously And Can't See Humor In Anything"?

But thanks for calling me a fucking idiot, you impotent joke!  (Are we bonding now?  Is this how this works?  YAY GROWNUPS)

( * = in this case, Star Wars.  I would never deign to impugn the counterporcine crusade as 'silly'.)

Quote from: VectorSigma;801403The same location being fairly important to a whole series of wars?  That does indeed seem unlikely.  Ask Rincewind, he may know something about this phenomenon.

I wasn't particularly blown away by the trailer, but I don't feel the need to pick it apart, either.  

Maybe Lucas should've hired Pundit as a consultant on the movie; at least then the Jedi would be 'proper chaos magicians', but the lead character always bitching about Gamorreans would probably grate after a while.

To be fair, I gripped and groaned "Tattooine again, really?" as well. But I know it's a nerd's gripe within me, that horrible RPG nerds gripe about realism and cohesion of the world - from storytelling perspective, of course I understand it (and on the other hand, I am looking forward to seeing Yavin IV again, since that's the jungle planet from the trailer, based on architecture).

And myself, I deep down know it doesn't matter even if the trailers will point to this being the worst steaming pile of Bantha droppings the world has ever seen. In a year's time, I'll be meeting up with my father in front of a cinema, once again ready to journey to a galaxy far, far away...

And what if the film sucks? Well, then at least I hope I didn't have to break into Abrams' mansion for my dying friend to see it until cancer takes him.

Fuck me. A year of this?

Quote from: Will;801342The plot (like Into Darkness) might be really really fucking stupid, but at least it'll be exciting to WATCH.

I'll take that.

Same here. No matter what, this new Star Wars will be exciting and pretty to look at. At the very worst it will be a fun, one-time viewing. I'm not a kid anymore, I don't NEED Star Wars, it isn't my life anymore etc...

EDIT: when I saw the opening shot, I didn't think "Tatooine", I thought of the opening shot of the Good, the Bad and the Ugly (open, wide and desolate landscape and then suddenly CLOSE UP! DANGER!). Part of me hopes that Abrahms is tapping the Western in Space vibe of A New Hope.

It helps that, when I watch the original trilogy nowadays, I realize how stupid a lot of it is. But it's exciting and evocative.

Particularly Return of the Jedi. That was a deeply, deeply, DEEPLY fucking stupid movie. Fucking Ewoks. And the dialog...


Which reminds me, when I watch the original trilogy again, other than the nostalgia element (I remember waiting in line, as a wee Will, my dad holding my hand, in a line that started outside the theater. We waited a long time to see that movie), what I keep noticing is that, more than anything else, the soundtrack and the sound FX stand up to anything made since; blaster sounds, ships screaming past, all of it.

I defy anyone to listen to the Imperial March without starting to move a bit to the beat.

George Lucas version of trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v93Jh6JNBng

I don't mind the Ewoks.  Especially when you realize that they ate the storm troopers.  Brings a whole new level of complexity to that movie besides "let's introduce something cute!"

Quote from: Will;801885Particularly Return of the Jedi. That was a deeply, deeply, DEEPLY fucking stupid movie. Fucking Ewoks. And the dialog...

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I never understood this. Not picking on you, I just don't understand all the hate for Jedi. When Jedi came out I was pretty young and thought it was incredible. Still love watching it. All the movies were pretty silly at times. I don't think Ewoks are any more silly than Jawas for instance. Maybe I am just partial because it is the first Star Wars I remember seeing in theater (I have it on good authority I was present at a viewing of Empire Strikes Back but I was like four at the time and don't remember a thing).

I don't know, the tone of much of the movie just ... seemed off, compared to the other two movies.

I enjoyed the world building elements, though.

I also found the general dialog, of the Emperor and Vader, seemed really clunky.

I mean, I enjoyed the bits of the movie that weren't on Endor or didn't have the Emperor or Vader in it. And I DID like Vader turning on the Emperor at the end (though not the edited in NOOO stupidity)

I also admire the craft that went into all the movies, the practical effects, and the fact that the third movie kicked off Warwick Davis' career.

Edit: Holy crap! Warwick Davis is going to be in the new Star Wars movie, awesome.

Quote from: Will;802591I don't know, the tone of much of the movie just ... seemed off, compared to the other two movies.

In Real Life, George Lucas was going thru the end of his first marriage. So as he (roughly) put it "RotJ was super upbeat as everyone was trying to cheer me up, and Indiana Jones and tToD was super-dark, because I wrote it during that time too..."

Huh, that's interesting.

Quote from: BedrockBrendan;802586I never understood this. Not picking on you, I just don't understand all the hate for Jedi. When Jedi came out I was pretty young and thought it was incredible. Still love watching it. All the movies were pretty silly at times. I don't think Ewoks are any more silly than Jawas for instance. Maybe I am just partial because it is the first Star Wars I remember seeing in theater (I have it on good authority I was present at a viewing of Empire Strikes Back but I was like four at the time and don't remember a thing).

It's hard for me to hate a movie, but what bugged me the most about Jedi was how incredibly weak stormtrooper armor was. I could buy that the armor couldn't stop laser blasts (I mean, if I built a sidearm, I'd sure as heck want it to pierce the most common armor...) but even sticks caused those guys to fall down.

I grant, Imperial military tactics are colossally stupid in general, but at least the Empire's tactics are consistently the stupidest possible...but it really seems like teddy bears with sticks should have *that* easy a time ripping through armor and stuff.

And I never caught that Ewoks ate the stormtroopers...but I buy it in retrospect.

Quote from: Novastar;802643In Real Life, George Lucas was going thru the end of his first marriage. So as he (roughly) put it "RotJ was super upbeat as everyone was trying to cheer me up, and Indiana Jones and tToD was super-dark, because I wrote it during that time too..."

There are those who say the first two movies were good BECAUSE his wife was the film editor.

She was also the one who helped edit ideas or steer him in the right direction when he was at home at night and working on them...


- Ed C.

And I'm laughing even more at RPGPundit and the original post of this thread.
So, yeah, all those stupid CGI tricks... most of them aren't CGI tricks.


EVEN THE ROLLER BALL DROID:
http://www.polygon.com/2014/12/12/7385691/star-wars-droid-force-awakens