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Why are D&D movies... "D&D" movies, instead of something more specific?

Started by Bruwulf, January 11, 2023, 11:33:07 AM

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Bruwulf

#45
March 01, 2023, 10:27:15 AM
Quote from: Omega on February 20, 2023, 08:19:56 AM
This new movie its just feeling like the D&D setting is just an excuse to do jokes, snark and all that. Its coming across allmost insulting at times. But I think that is because the trailers have been pushing the snark alot.

I'm going to be honest, a disturbing amount of movies these days feel that way. There's a whole lot of movies it feels where basically the movie is just a vehicle for awful comedy one-liners, and I don't understand it. It's like Joss Whedon infected Hollywood. Except whaever else I think about Whedon, he had a nack for that particular type of quippy dialog.

jhkim

#46
March 01, 2023, 12:49:15 PM
Quote from: Bruwulf on March 01, 2023, 10:27:15 AM
Quote from: Omega on February 20, 2023, 08:19:56 AM
This new movie its just feeling like the D&D setting is just an excuse to do jokes, snark and all that. Its coming across allmost insulting at times. But I think that is because the trailers have been pushing the snark alot.

I'm going to be honest, a disturbing amount of movies these days feel that way. There's a whole lot of movies it feels where basically the movie is just a vehicle for awful comedy one-liners, and I don't understand it. It's like Joss Whedon infected Hollywood. Except whaever else I think about Whedon, he had a nack for that particular type of quippy dialog.

As I see it, snarky comedic one-liners are a long-established part of Hollywood action movies, going back at least to the earliest James Bond movies, Arnold Schwarzenegger movies, etc. The level of comedy in action movies goes back and forth over the decades. I think we're in a period where people are just less into grimdark serious stuff because they want more light escapism.

Bruwulf

#47
March 01, 2023, 05:05:38 PM
Quote from: jhkim on March 01, 2023, 12:49:15 PM

As I see it, snarky comedic one-liners are a long-established part of Hollywood action movies, going back at least to the earliest James Bond movies, Arnold Schwarzenegger movies, etc. The level of comedy in action movies goes back and forth over the decades. I think we're in a period where people are just less into grimdark serious stuff because they want more light escapism.

It's different now. One liners were things that stood out. Now it feels like in some movies the film is basically a vehicle for a series of strung-together quips, rather than actual dialog.

I'll admit it could just be my perception, though.

GeekyBugle

#48
March 03, 2023, 01:58:11 PM
Emasculated main male characters are funny says the HAT writters

https://archive.is/pU5Se
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Eirikrautha

#49
March 03, 2023, 05:32:02 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 03, 2023, 01:58:11 PM
Emasculated main male characters are funny says the HAT writters

https://archive.is/pU5Se

And all the party members are "losers" and "bad at what they do."  Sounds like a great film...

BoxCrayonTales

#50
March 03, 2023, 06:29:56 PM
Those amateur D&D webshows on youtube from the early 2010s are truer to D&D than this.

hedgehobbit

#51
March 03, 2023, 08:25:21 PM
Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves' writing team John Francis Daley and Jonathan Goldstein revealed they intentionally "emasculated" the film's leading men, though not for "wokeness."

I'm sure everyone will be relieved to learn that the movie isn't woke.

Besides, emasculated men and ugly female barbarians is a perfect representation of modern D&D. No one can say that the movie doesn't follow the source material.

Zelen

#52
March 04, 2023, 12:43:17 PM
Dungeons & Dragons: Misandry Among Homosexuals

Armchair Gamer

#53
March 08, 2023, 11:14:08 AM
Quote from: Eirikrautha on March 03, 2023, 05:32:02 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 03, 2023, 01:58:11 PM
Emasculated main male characters are funny says the HAT writters

https://archive.is/pU5Se

And all the party members are "losers" and "bad at what they do."  Sounds like a great film...

  Dungeons & Dragons: The Last Paladin

Omega

#54
March 24, 2023, 02:34:34 AM
Quote from: hedgehobbit on March 03, 2023, 08:25:21 PM
Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves' writing team John Francis Daley and Jonathan Goldstein revealed they intentionally "emasculated" the film's leading men, though not for "wokeness."

I'm sure everyone will be relieved to learn that the movie isn't woke.

Accirding to people who have seen the movie so far. They did not.
Which means this was baiting. Outrage marketing.

jeff37923

#55
March 24, 2023, 06:13:56 AM
Quote from: Bruwulf on January 11, 2023, 11:33:07 AM
Why does WotC insist on making "Dungeons and Dragons" branded stuff, instead of, for example, "The Legend of Drizzt", or something?

I'm not going to fight about which particular famous D&D characters you would want to see in a movie, I picked Drizzt because he's probably still about the most famous one these days, but my point is... Why do we keep getting generic "D&D" movies with random shlubs we don't have any investment in, that invariably suck because a D&D campaign itself doesn't really make for a good movie, and end up just being giant flops for WotC?

I know there was that god-awful animated Dragonlance movie back ~15 years ago, that as far as I can tell had the animation budget for a movie about a quarter as long as what it ultimately was, so as a result was just a hot mess from a production standpoint, and yeah, I know given what's' happened in the last few years the chance of WotC ever making any media with the Dragonlance name on it is about zero, but beyond that D&D movies never seem to take advantage of the stable of IP they already have. Make a Drizzt movie. Make a movie about Strahd. Make a movie about frickin' Elminster, even.

It's like if Marvel studios just decided to make "A Superhero Movie", as opposed to an Iron Man or Thor movie. You *can* make an original IP superhero, you can even make a movie about them... But it's an uphill battle, when you've already got developed, fleshed out characters that have a built-in audience.

Is it just that they don't want to have to pay a percentage to the authors who came up with the characters, or what?

Marketting.

The sales weenies have determined that "Dungeons & Dragons" will push more product in the general marketplace through name recognition.
"Meh."

jeff37923

#56
March 24, 2023, 06:15:34 AM
Quote from: Eirikrautha on March 03, 2023, 05:32:02 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 03, 2023, 01:58:11 PM
Emasculated main male characters are funny says the HAT writters

https://archive.is/pU5Se

And all the party members are "losers" and "bad at what they do."  Sounds like a great film...

It's the "Bad News Bears" at "Tomb of Horrors".......
"Meh."
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