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So, I watched the Free D&D Movie.....

Started by Jam The MF, May 28, 2023, 06:04:23 AM

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jhkim

#45
June 27, 2023, 04:02:12 PM
Quote from: Omega on June 27, 2023, 04:06:17 AM
Something that I noticed through the movie and got me thinking.

Is Edgin really a Bard? I can not recall him doing a single Bard thing. And no bad singing is not a bard thing.

Is the Tiefling really a Druid? Like with Edgin she never once casts any spells and all she seems to do is wildshape far more than normal.

But is it wildshape? What she does is more like Shapechange or polymorph self.

The movie doesn't follow the D&D mechanics, but the characters are supposed to be an essence of their class as a simplified version.

Edgin's bardic abilities are simplified to just inspiration. He helps inspire the other characters.

Doric's druidic abilities are simplified to just wildshape.

Xenk's paladin abilities are simplified down to just smite. He's lawful good and great at fighting undead.

Ghostmaker

#46
June 27, 2023, 06:21:10 PM
If you've ever seen a film adaptation of a video game, you'll know that it's hard to make game mechanics work on the big screen.

Omega

#47
June 27, 2023, 06:32:40 PM
Thats just coming up with excuses.

And its been a false one for decades now.

There is a huge difference between what they say these two characters are. And what they are actually doing.

Ghostmaker

#48
June 28, 2023, 10:33:08 AM
Quote from: Omega on June 27, 2023, 06:32:40 PM
Thats just coming up with excuses.

And its been a false one for decades now.

There is a huge difference between what they say these two characters are. And what they are actually doing.
I bet you complained that the X-Men weren't wearing yellow spandex when the first movie came out too :)

jeff37923

#49
June 29, 2023, 08:31:21 AM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on June 27, 2023, 06:21:10 PM
If you've ever seen a film adaptation of a video game, you'll know that it's hard to make game mechanics work on the big screen.

They didn't have a problem with Scanlon doing over the top Bard things in Vox Machina......
"Meh."

Omega

#50
July 02, 2023, 12:23:30 AM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on June 28, 2023, 10:33:08 AM
Quote from: Omega on June 27, 2023, 06:32:40 PM
Thats just coming up with excuses.

And its been a false one for decades now.

There is a huge difference between what they say these two characters are. And what they are actually doing.
I bet you complained that the X-Men weren't wearing yellow spandex when the first movie came out too :)

Ive said many a time that the Matrix sucked all the color out of near every movie after. X-Men was an early victim.

Wrath of God

#51
July 02, 2023, 08:35:24 AM Last Edit: July 02, 2023, 08:37:43 AM by Wrath of God
QuoteThey didn't have a problem with Scanlon doing over the top Bard things in Vox Machina......

Yes and not.
Scanlan in TV show is doing some weird magic - 99% Hand of course - but that does not represent really how Sam was playing it.
Mostly because show suck at showing combat teamwork of DnD 5e - so support characters are forced into more action mode - rather than supporting frontline, debuffing enemies and so on.

QuoteIve said many a time that the Matrix sucked all the color out of near every movie after. X-Men was an early victim.

Yes, and no.
Sure grimmer tone was dominant, but also you know X-Men in movie are no masked heroes, and basically they do not engage in vigilantism. So those original comics would be tonally totally off.

"Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armageddon."

"And I will strike down upon thee
With great vengeance and furious anger"

"Molti Nemici, Molto Onore"

Chris24601

#52
July 04, 2023, 10:37:28 AM
Quote from: VisionStorm on June 25, 2023, 03:35:51 PM
Quote from: Crusader X on June 25, 2023, 11:52:38 AMI wish we would have seen more classic races and monsters, like Elves, Dwarves, Orcs, Goblins, etc.  We briefly saw a dwarf in that maze at the end of the movie, and there was probably an elf or two in the background somewhere else, but major races and monsters received very little screen time, which I thought a bit odd.  Aarakocras and Tieflings have better casting agents than Elves and Dwarves, apparently.

That was probably the worse aspect of the film. Way too much emphasis on nuD&D races, barely a mention of elves or dwarves. Otherwise it was a mostly forgettable, but largely inoffensive movie that didn't entirely suck and kinda sorta tried to stick to the lore.
I think some are missing the point of WHY it was Dragonborn, Aarakocras, Tieflings, Harpers, Wizards of They, owlbears, displacer beasts, mimicks, gelatinous cubes, etc. and not elves, dwarves, halflings, orcs and dragons...

It's because it wasn't a D&D movie... it was a D&D IP movie. All the elements they chose to use in the film were the things Hasbro owns outright and are distinct from other fantasy settings.

THAT was the reason for what they chose to focus on vs. being a background detail.

It's basically the same reason the Vox Machina cartoon swapped out things like the Beholder, only in reverse.

Ghostmaker

#53
July 04, 2023, 06:07:39 PM
Quote from: Chris24601 on July 04, 2023, 10:37:28 AM
Quote from: VisionStorm on June 25, 2023, 03:35:51 PM
Quote from: Crusader X on June 25, 2023, 11:52:38 AMI wish we would have seen more classic races and monsters, like Elves, Dwarves, Orcs, Goblins, etc.  We briefly saw a dwarf in that maze at the end of the movie, and there was probably an elf or two in the background somewhere else, but major races and monsters received very little screen time, which I thought a bit odd.  Aarakocras and Tieflings have better casting agents than Elves and Dwarves, apparently.

That was probably the worse aspect of the film. Way too much emphasis on nuD&D races, barely a mention of elves or dwarves. Otherwise it was a mostly forgettable, but largely inoffensive movie that didn't entirely suck and kinda sorta tried to stick to the lore.
I think some are missing the point of WHY it was Dragonborn, Aarakocras, Tieflings, Harpers, Wizards of They, owlbears, displacer beasts, mimicks, gelatinous cubes, etc. and not elves, dwarves, halflings, orcs and dragons...

It's because it wasn't a D&D movie... it was a D&D IP movie. All the elements they chose to use in the film were the things Hasbro owns outright and are distinct from other fantasy settings.

THAT was the reason for what they chose to focus on vs. being a background detail.

It's basically the same reason the Vox Machina cartoon swapped out things like the Beholder, only in reverse.
Hmmm.

I was going to argue about this, as the gelatinous cube and owlbear are part of the OGL -- but that may not matter at this point thanks to Hasbro/WotC trying to do away with it.

I wonder if that was part of the plan, actually. Push people off the OGL so that they outright own all of it and can use it in their IP exclusively?

Omega

#54
July 04, 2023, 07:16:35 PM
Quote from: Chris24601 on July 04, 2023, 10:37:28 AM
I think some are missing the point of WHY it was Dragonborn, Aarakocras, Tieflings, Harpers, Wizards of They, owlbears, displacer beasts, mimicks, gelatinous cubes, etc. and not elves, dwarves, halflings, orcs and dragons...


Um... Theres an orc or half-orc at the start and a hafling is more than windowdressing in the movie. Nearly pointless characterbuilding, but least not just an easter-egg. Theres also a dwarf in a semi-non-background part. Did everyone just sleep through the elven village segment? Muted sure, but it was there.

The problem is more that they just toss stuff in willy nilly too much.

Chris24601

#55
July 04, 2023, 07:43:35 PM
Quote from: Omega on July 04, 2023, 07:16:35 PM
Quote from: Chris24601 on July 04, 2023, 10:37:28 AM
I think some are missing the point of WHY it was Dragonborn, Aarakocras, Tieflings, Harpers, Wizards of They, owlbears, displacer beasts, mimicks, gelatinous cubes, etc. and not elves, dwarves, halflings, orcs and dragons...


Um... Theres an orc or half-orc at the start and a hafling is more than windowdressing in the movie. Nearly pointless characterbuilding, but least not just an easter-egg. Theres also a dwarf in a semi-non-background part. Did everyone just sleep through the elven village segment? Muted sure, but it was there.
To be fair, there was a Tiefling Karen sucking up all the attention in the foreground so I'm not entirely surprised it was missed.

But why a Tiefling when we already have a half-elf established and they're going into Elven territory (and it would make sense for a half-elf to know some elves)? An elf druid would make logical sense, but D&D elves are too generic to trademark... whereas a Tiefling is "product identity."

Omega

#56
July 07, 2023, 08:32:14 PM
Apparently because the elves are more accepting than those nasty white humans are.

Klava

#57
July 09, 2023, 03:54:39 AM
Quote from: Omega on July 07, 2023, 08:32:14 PM
Apparently because the elves are more accepting than those nasty white humans are.

uh huh. the whole tiefling schtick is, basically, virtue signaling. a token member of "oppressed minority" running away from "horrible patriarchy" and finding a new home with a "queer community". the cringe is so thick there you could chop it with an axe.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out

Omega

#58
July 10, 2023, 08:12:32 AM
Could also be read as a dig at the whole thing too as she complains alot, yet I can not recall anyone actually treating her poorly throughout the movie.
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