I liked the movie. It wasn'exactly perfect, but did deliver where it counted and wasn't polluted too badly with real world politics and stuff like that. A strong B "would watch once more later to catch more references and easter eggs" from me.

Quote from: Opaopajr on May 28, 2023, 11:50:54 AM
So the record holds: not a good one yet. Oh Jeremy Irons, your acting chops were wasted on it before, Chris Pine your... eye candy? was wasted on it now.  I keed, I keed.

We have so far gotten all of 1 passable D&D movie. The second one. Low budget maybe but its still more D&D than the first or third.

The new movie tries too hard to be Guardians of the Galaxy without understanding what made it fun to begin with.

It bothers me, that it made their challenges seem so easy to overcome.  Oh, I just so happen to have this magic item.....  And I just so happen to have this high level spell......  And I have this staff with lots of charges.....

But the characters weren't being put forth, as paragons of their respective character classes.  It was all so happy go lucky.  It cheapened the play experience.  Death wasn't much of a concern.

Quote from: Jam The MF on May 30, 2023, 05:52:51 PM
It bothers me, that it made their challenges seem so easy to overcome.  Oh, I just so happen to have this magic item.....  And I just so happen to have this high level spell......  And I have this staff with lots of charges.....

But the characters weren't being put forth, as paragons of their respective character classes.  It was all so happy go lucky.  It cheapened the play experience.  Death wasn't much of a concern.

Sounds like perfect 5e emulation.

In my opinion, a better idea would have been for the movie to have taken place in both worlds. A father that's having a hard time connecting with his son or daughter. Stereotypical dad that doesn't identify with his son and vice versa. Dad is somewhat forced to play in a series of DnD games with his son to try and connect. When they enter the world, it we see it on film. They and the rest of party (maybe a neighbor, friend, and uncle that games and is DM) and the father and son go on an epic journey via DnD and they also become closer in real life. The dad's eyes are opened to his son's abilities and the son learns to appreciate his dad.  This would be done without corny and sappy dialogue. This all mixed with DnD lore and adventure.  There would be tons of room for funny quips about the game and all that type of stuff, but the movie would have a heart and soul, which the current movie lacks.

I mean, isn't this the heart of the game anyway?  Friends going on an epic adventure, sharing experiences together, and living a story.

Quote from: Pen on May 31, 2023, 10:20:54 AM
In my opinion, a better idea would have been for the movie to have taken place in both worlds. A father that's having a hard time connecting with his son or daughter. Stereotypical dad that doesn't identify with his son and vice versa. Dad is somewhat forced to play in a series of DnD games with his son to try and connect. When they enter the world, it we see it on film. They and the rest of party (maybe a neighbor, friend, and uncle that games and is DM) and the father and son go on an epic journey via DnD and they also become closer in real life. The dad's eyes are opened to his son's abilities and the son learns to appreciate his dad.  This would be done without corny and sappy dialogue. This all mixed with DnD lore and adventure.  There would be tons of room for funny quips about the game and all that type of stuff, but the movie would have a heart and soul, which the current movie lacks.

I mean, isn't this the heart of the game anyway?  Friends going on an epic adventure, sharing experiences together, and living a story.

I think D&D used to be about that stuff.  Now it's all about expressing your individuality by playing a transgender, wheelchair bound half tiefling-half angel or whatever....

Quote from: Persimmon on May 31, 2023, 10:43:54 AM

Quote from: Pen on May 31, 2023, 10:20:54 AM
In my opinion, a better idea would have been for the movie to have taken place in both worlds. A father that's having a hard time connecting with his son or daughter. Stereotypical dad that doesn't identify with his son and vice versa. Dad is somewhat forced to play in a series of DnD games with his son to try and connect. When they enter the world, it we see it on film. They and the rest of party (maybe a neighbor, friend, and uncle that games and is DM) and the father and son go on an epic journey via DnD and they also become closer in real life. The dad's eyes are opened to his son's abilities and the son learns to appreciate his dad.  This would be done without corny and sappy dialogue. This all mixed with DnD lore and adventure.  There would be tons of room for funny quips about the game and all that type of stuff, but the movie would have a heart and soul, which the current movie lacks.

I mean, isn't this the heart of the game anyway?  Friends going on an epic adventure, sharing experiences together, and living a story.

I think D&D used to be about that stuff.  Now it's all about expressing your individuality by playing a transgender, wheelchair bound half tiefling-half angel or whatever....

Lol. Sad but true.

It was free on Paramount+, I found it to be utterly formulaic drivel, both visually and story-wise. Made it about a third way through before abandoning it from sheer boredom and am now kicking myself for the wasted time.

Quote from: Persimmon on May 31, 2023, 10:43:54 AM

Quote from: Pen on May 31, 2023, 10:20:54 AM
In my opinion, a better idea would have been for the movie to have taken place in both worlds. A father that's having a hard time connecting with his son or daughter. Stereotypical dad that doesn't identify with his son and vice versa. Dad is somewhat forced to play in a series of DnD games with his son to try and connect. When they enter the world, it we see it on film. They and the rest of party (maybe a neighbor, friend, and uncle that games and is DM) and the father and son go on an epic journey via DnD and they also become closer in real life. The dad's eyes are opened to his son's abilities and the son learns to appreciate his dad.  This would be done without corny and sappy dialogue. This all mixed with DnD lore and adventure.  There would be tons of room for funny quips about the game and all that type of stuff, but the movie would have a heart and soul, which the current movie lacks.

I mean, isn't this the heart of the game anyway?  Friends going on an epic adventure, sharing experiences together, and living a story.

I think D&D used to be about that stuff.  Now it's all about expressing your individuality by playing a transgender, wheelchair bound half tiefling-half angel or whatever....

I know you're exaggerating but I am unsure if you're aware how much you're exaggerating. All those topics are topics which have come up in the field. However, not sure if you missed it, but almost all of them ended up not happening in the books WOTC put out, or not happening in a meaningful way but more like a brief side note. The wheelchair thing in particular simply never happened in a reality in their books. They gave that topic lip service, and then even the book they claimed would work it in...didn't. A bunch of people complained online, WOTC ignored it, and that's that. Same with Transgenderism. Literally I'd say Pundit has given that topic a more serious look in books he's published (before all this became a fad) than WOTC has in their books. Again, lots of lip service, very little actual stuff published.

People keep focusing on the two "You don't need to fight much" adventures they've published and ignoring the bulk of what they've actually published. WOTC has put out a ton of hard core dungeon and hex crawl adventures. But that stuff doesn't make sexy news and political talk circles because it's just...ordinary D&D. The exceptions are what gets talked about the most, and then those exceptions get exaggerated by those who support it and those who oppose it.

I did just have to dump a whole group of players I'd known for years, when they decided that D&D was indeed about 'expressing your individuality", and objected to their PCs being challenged with actual threats. Or even being expected to face social challenges such as not insulting their most powerful ally, or making up with her after insulting her.

Players in my five other groups were pretty baffled by this, so it's still a minority view, but the players in the group I purged definitely thought they were 'doing it right' and I was 'doing it wrong'.

Quote from: Persimmon on May 31, 2023, 10:43:54 AM

Quote from: Pen on May 31, 2023, 10:20:54 AM
In my opinion, a better idea would have been for the movie to have taken place in both worlds. A father that's having a hard time connecting with his son or daughter. Stereotypical dad that doesn't identify with his son and vice versa. Dad is somewhat forced to play in a series of DnD games with his son to try and connect. When they enter the world, it we see it on film. They and the rest of party (maybe a neighbor, friend, and uncle that games and is DM) and the father and son go on an epic journey via DnD and they also become closer in real life. The dad's eyes are opened to his son's abilities and the son learns to appreciate his dad.  This would be done without corny and sappy dialogue. This all mixed with DnD lore and adventure.  There would be tons of room for funny quips about the game and all that type of stuff, but the movie would have a heart and soul, which the current movie lacks.

I mean, isn't this the heart of the game anyway?  Friends going on an epic adventure, sharing experiences together, and living a story.

I think D&D used to be about that stuff.  Now it's all about expressing your individuality by playing a transgender, wheelchair bound half tiefling-half angel or whatever....

Ha!!!

Quote from: S'mon on May 31, 2023, 03:43:26 PM
I did just have to dump a whole group of players I'd known for years, when they decided that D&D was indeed about 'expressing your individuality", and objected to their PCs being challenged with actual threats. Or even being expected to face social challenges such as not insulting their most powerful ally, or making up with her after insulting her.

Players in my five other groups were pretty baffled by this, so it's still a minority view, but the players in the group I purged definitely thought they were 'doing it right' and I was 'doing it wrong'.

Because they are being told at every turn in life now, that Their Way is the right way; as long as it is Woke Friendly / LGBTQ+ Friendly.  Their Way, is the right way.  You were just there to accommodate Their Way.

Quote from: Jam The MF on May 31, 2023, 05:30:58 PM
Because they are being told at every turn in life now, that Their Way is the right way; as long as it is Woke Friendly / LGBTQ+ Friendly.  Their Way, is the right way.  You were just there to accommodate Their Way.

This seemed to be the view. I was told that the existence of evil, non-redeemable Bugbears was Problematic.

My son wanted to watch it the other night, so we tuned in for free on Paramount. It was wasn't good. Had some funny spots, but I was unimpressed overall. I didn't care for the barbarian chick or the wizard characters in particular. Don't get me started on tieflings...  They checked some boxes though.

I doubt I'd watch it again. I'd much rather watch Hawk The Slayer, The Beastmaster, The Sword and the Sorcerer, or Conan.

Way too much 5E and Forgotten Realms for me.

Quote from: Jam The MF on May 28, 2023, 06:04:23 AM
It sucked. 

Most of the acting was goofy.  Too many goofy personalities.  It's like every character was being played by a 13 year old.  They tried to cram too much high level stuff, into one movie.  They always quickly found the person / magic item / solution to the problem.  Nobody had to die, and stay dead; except for the bard's wife, in his memory flashbacks.  They survived an encounter, that should have been a TPK.  One of the big bad guys, was laughable.

I guess the best acting, was done by the paladin.  He was ok.

I agree.  Most people I know liked it and I was confused because I thought it was trash.