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Ratman_tf:
https://www.newsweek.com/lindsay-ellis-omelas-meaning-vlogger-quits-youtube-raya-controversy-1663563

Popular progressive youtube blogger and critic leaves the interwebs over harassment.

I won't sum up the story here, the details are all over the internet. A search for "Linday Ellis harassment" will keep you occupied for hours.

My mean spirited reaction has been along the lines of "Bed, Made, Lie", but my serious reaction is that this is social justice activism boiled down to it's essence.
All the progressive, anti-racism, equity, blah blah blah are tools for people to set up their own heirarchy and thrash each other over dominance of that hierarchy.
Lindsay particiapted and is shocked, shocked! that she got put in the crosshairs.
And as a cherry on the shit sundae, her flounce letter on patreon still desperatley clings to progressive talking points, showing that she hasn't learned a thing, and is only pissed that she was the target.


Pat:
Quick summary: "My life ended nine months ago", but I still have this huge YouTube and Patreon following and have tons of money so even though I'm not going to do anything new I'm going to keep them open so I can still rake in the cash oh woe is me.

Shrieking Banshee:
She is not worth much in-depth discussion. And she doesn't earn my pity because as agreed this is a 'Lie in Bed' sort of deal.

Ratman_tf:

--- Quote from: Shrieking Banshee on January 02, 2022, 05:13:23 PM ---She is not worth much in-depth discussion.
--- End quote ---

I mostly agree, but I also think that for some people out there, this might be their moment of realization that social justice activism isn't all it's cracked up to be. And so I have some patience in rehashing topics, on the off chance that one of those souls wanders into our neck of the woods.

Pat:

--- Quote from: Ratman_tf on January 02, 2022, 06:18:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shrieking Banshee on January 02, 2022, 05:13:23 PM ---She is not worth much in-depth discussion.
--- End quote ---

I mostly agree, but I also think that for some people out there, this might be their moment of realization that social justice activism isn't all it's cracked up to be. And so I have some patience in rehashing topics, on the off chance that one of those souls wanders into our neck of the woods.

--- End quote ---
It certainly isn't Lindsay Ellis' moment of realization. She's criticizing them for the same tactics she used, without seeming to have any awareness of the staggering level of hypocrisy she's displaying. It's bad because it happened to her and she hates being picked on, that's all. If she was forgiven, she'd be wielding a pitchfork and burning people at the stake, tomorrow.

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