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HappyDaze:
As someone that never read the comic, I'm anticipating that the complaints being discussed will do little to hurt my impressions of the show when I start watching it next week.

Rob Necronomicon:

--- Quote from: HappyDaze on August 11, 2022, 09:20:27 AM ---As someone that never read the comic, I'm anticipating that the complaints being discussed will do little to hurt my impressions of the show when I start watching it next week.

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Oh, I'm not trying to tell anyone not to enjoy it. But even if you've not read the comic it's still exceedingly blatant IMO.

And again I've no problem with adding in some POC. I just don't like all the nuclear warhead-like virtue signaling.

GeekyBugle:

--- Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on August 11, 2022, 08:18:27 AM ---Well, Gaiman apparently wanted it this way.

The whole racebending Death part is really silly for multiple reasons. At one point the show establishes that the Endless each look different depending on who looks at them, so Death could’ve been played by both a white actress and a black actress in different shots. Obviously that’s virtue signaling. Also, she only appears for a short period of time.

Around 3/4 of the characters who show any attraction are gay for no reason other than virtue signaling. Most don’t appear for more than one episode. The only recurring gay characters are a drag queen and a villain.

Desire’s casting was actually pretty on point, because the actor is a total creep in real life so totally sold desire being a creep.

Unfortunately, the show overall just wasn’t very strong because the storytelling is so outdated. Sometimes the dialogue is just cringy or unnatural.

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Of course Gaiman "wanted it this way", we have a say7ing in spanish, no idea if there's something similar in english: "Poderoso Caballero es Don Dinero".

In short Gaiman had lot$ of rea$on$ to "want it this way", meaning he sold the rights for the TV Show and I bet the contract prohibits him from badmouthing it.

Rob Necronomicon:

--- Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 11, 2022, 11:09:39 AM ---In short Gaiman had lot$ of rea$on$ to "want it this way", meaning he sold the rights for the TV Show and I bet the contract prohibits him from badmouthing it.

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Indeed... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

As far as I know, though, he was also quite heavily with some of the decision-making and has lashed out at a lot of peeps who've been slagging it off for it being woke as fuck. Honestly, I've never seen such pandering to the woke-scold audience before. Even more than the lack-luster American Gods series.

I'm not actually a huge fan of his with the exception of Never Where. If they made it now god knows what it would be like.

GeekyBugle:

--- Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on August 11, 2022, 11:18:39 AM ---
--- Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 11, 2022, 11:09:39 AM ---In short Gaiman had lot$ of rea$on$ to "want it this way", meaning he sold the rights for the TV Show and I bet the contract prohibits him from badmouthing it.

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Indeed... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

As far as I know, though, he was also quite heavily with some of the decision-making and has lashed out at a lot of peeps who've been slagging it off for it being woke as fuck. Honestly, I've never seen such pandering to the woke-scold audience before. Even more than the lack-luster American Gods series.

I'm not actually a huge fan of his with the exception of Never Where. If they made it now god knows what it would be like.

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I've come to the conclusion that fans should stop being fans. Divest themselves of ANY emotional ties to IPs they don't own or control.

I've got the comic books I liked, they can't change that. As for Gaiman yeah, never was really into his stuff.

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