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« on: July 25, 2007, 06:10:00 PM »
Seriously. I was telling some guys about Iron Heroes and got kicked for "spamming". The channel has been pretty unfriendly to actual discussion of RPGs for the past six to eight months I've been going there (discussions about food and BDSM seem more their thing), but this is just ridiculous.

Does anyone know any better channels for RPG discussion, or still use #therpgsite?
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2007, 06:35:08 PM »
Didn't you know, Pseudo?  You're apparently part of a conspiracy with JimBob to attack #rpgnet.  :rolleyes:

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03:36   Cith   Yeah, i figured he was up to something like that. He's pulled that wall of text thing to try and stir trouble before when he and jimbob were trying to get the #therpgsite channel going.
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03:40   J_Arcane   Eh.
   Cith   Iron Heroes was a pretty fun iteration of D20, but suffered from Mearls leaving the project too early. It really could have used a revised edition to patch up some holes (like sorcery)
   J_Arcane   He was talking about RPGs. And there's plenty of regulars here more than happy to "spam" the channel with extended talk about certain browser MMOs, or Nobilis, or spirit of the Century, or their latest charsheet design, or just hours and hours of endless punwars.
03:41   J_Arcane   If we start banning people for that this channel will get awful quiet.

   Cith   J, if he hadn't pulled similar stunts in the past with JimBob, trying to make a drama out of how "no one ever discusses rpgs here", I'd agree. But the reality is, it's a pattern of behavior for him, and he was looking for trouble now, just as he had before, to create drama over it. Hence the immediate thread on therpgsite.com

   J_Arcane   Or, it's jsut the way he types, and he talks in exactly the same fashion in any of the other channels I've spoken with him on, and actually a fairly similar fashion to how I have been known to do when my thoughts are running faster than my fingers.
      
   J_Arcane   But hey, let's jump to conspiracy theory instead, it works for the Pundit.
   
   Cith   J, again, he's pulled the same stunt before with JimBob. God forbid we observe folks behavior, and learn from it.
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2007, 07:26:02 PM »
Man, that's hilarious. That guy really believes all that paranoid crap? :rolleyes:
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2007, 07:29:51 PM »
BTW, what _are_ some good other rpg discussion channels? I'm not going back to #rpgnet.
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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2007, 08:26:49 PM »
Pseudo - you're posting to one.


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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2007, 10:00:43 PM »
Wow.  That's a craptacle of absolutely blowtastic proportions.

Not to mention really fucking stupid.
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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2007, 10:12:02 PM »
Just for the record? There's plenty of RPG discussion at #rpgnet.

A filibuster about a given RPG is not a "discussion".
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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2007, 10:13:44 PM »
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Just for the record? There's plenty of RPG discussion at #rpgnet.

A filibuster about a given RPG is not a "discussion".

So then are we going to start banning people for the 3-4 hour long discussions of Nobilis or Exalted?
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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2007, 10:42:16 PM »
Quote from: Dan Davenport
Just for the record? There's plenty of RPG discussion at #rpgnet.


Says the guy who has to specifically make a post to prove his point.

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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2007, 11:00:39 PM »
That's why of course there is  #rpgchat on the same server, when people started getting kicked for RPG discussion long ago, I started it up.

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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2007, 12:04:09 AM »
The next time I'm in a conspiracy, could someone tell me please?

I already missed out on being part of the Worldwide Jewish Conspiracy. I'd really like to be part of one I'm supposedly a member of.

I actually popped into #rpgnet just yesterday. There was a slow discussion of turning word docs into pdf and me and some other guy were promoting OpenOffice. After less than a screen's conversation in two hours, I wandered off... There were about 30 people in the channel, but only 3 or 4 talking.

I'd given up on #therpgsite, because running a successful channel takes constant promotion, which isn't really my thing. I get enough rpg discussion from this and a couple of other sites, and I am always available on MSN IM if people want to chat with me directly for some reason.

Dunno, really, about any other chat rooms. I'm pleased to hear #rpgchat is still going.
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« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2007, 12:15:07 AM »
I too had visited #rpgnet frequently at one point, using a name that wasn't recognizably mine (so as not to stir controversy at my very presence) just to see if there was anything worth chatting about.  After multiple visits where not only was there no talking about RPGs going on, but any talk about RPGs was intentionally derailed by most of the chat-members who'd try to spam such conversation until everyone went back to talking about bacon or whatever the fuck Tangency-topic they were all on about, I gave up on the place.  It was pointless drivel.

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« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2007, 02:04:20 AM »
Quote from: Dan Davenport
Just for the record? There's plenty of RPG discussion at #rpgnet.

A filibuster about a given RPG is not a "discussion".


There's very little discussion of RPGs at #rpgnet, especially considering its name is #RPGnet not #BlackIsisandDeitalkabouttheircodependentBDSMrelationshipnet or #whatkindoffoodshouldIeatnet. I tried to change that in a positive way, by talking about RPGs I liked, and the games I was running, and how to run games, etc. and got very little response from anyone other than Grimgent, CW Richeson and JA in the many months I tried to do so. There was no "conspiracy" or even any ill-will until earlier today.
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« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2007, 05:40:19 AM »
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There's very little discussion of RPGs at #rpgnet, especially considering its name is #RPGnet not #BlackIsisandDeitalkabouttheircodependentBDSMrelationshipnet or #whatkindoffoodshouldIeatnet.


Classy. Listen, I'm not sure if you were just blowing smoke about not coming back, but trust me, it's really not your call anymore. Consider yourself banned.

And in answer to other comments about the 'signal top noise' ratio of the channel, there are a few things people need to understand about #rpgnet. The first is that it's a fairly old channel as far as these sorts of things go, and that such channels tend to have developed their own little cultures (interperet that word as you see fit ;) ) and that a certain amount of drift from the initial topic is to be expected. It should also be understood that many of the channel's users remain logged in and use the channel as online background noise for their other activities such as posting to various message boards, playing web based games, watching television, 'blogging, whatever. So if you see a whole bunch of us, we're not necessarily ignoring you; though that may also be the case, as a good number of us had taken to ignoring Pseudoephedrine for his habit of setting up giant, rolling walls of text and using the channel as his personal campaign blog rather than engaging in two sided discussions. Mind, he was never kicked or disciplined for this until it was suspected that since his behaviour was so utterly insensitive to the rest of the participants that he must be forcibly trying to shape the channel into what he believed it should be.

I'm very sorry that the channel doesn't conform to some people's expectations of what it should be. But I think that those people need to also understand that the channel's existence pre-dates their expectations of it by *years*, and that those of us to who use it, like it for what it is: gaming and geek culture related discussion among a handful of admittedly cliquey but not entirely exclusive online friends. People are welcome to join in and to do so in the same way as *any* online community, by joining, listening, participating, and giving it time. Charging in and using the channel as a blog and becoming irate when it isn't about you or your needs at that very moment is extremely immature and will not be well-received. And even then, if it isn't for you it isn't for you.

PS - I'd like to expand on a few points, but work calls.

PPS - Apologies for jumping into the board in the off-topic section, but this seriously needed to be answered.

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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2007, 05:49:28 AM »
Have any of the other ops actually read the logs from the offending conversation?  Besides Cith of course, who made it abundantly clear to me that he had some kind of personal vendetta at stake.  

'Cause it really sounds an awful lot like you guys are jsut reciting rote because of what you've been told.  

I'd be more than happy to repost the logs of both the conversation that was apparently so bad as to deserve banning, as well as the rather wonderful conversation we had the night prior about the subject of family in RPGs.  And then maybe for comparison, I could wait until the next 3 hour long blitz on Pardus or KoL or Nobilis, where maybe 2- 3 people at best hijack the channel at the expense of any other topic of conversation.

Or would that conflict too badly with the party line?
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