Quote from: RPGPunditYou do realize that in calmly reporting about the way moderation policies work here with the "nox case" as an example, you have done more intense harm to the modcliques' image than two thousand blog rants of mine could have ever hoped to do, right?

I hadn't thought about damage.  I just tried to present my impression of it without making anyone out to be the bad guy -- except for the obvious bad guy, Nox.

QuoteI mean fuck, you did it on purpose right? You fucked them over by making them out to be the fascists they are, in the most polite way imaginable.

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Polite, maybe.  Fascists, I wasn't thinking about.  And I really wasn't contemplating fucking anybody over, either.  

I just wanted there to be a clear, undisputable record of why I, Dr Rotwang!, who have (I humbly submit) earned some respect, like this forum -- something to stand aginst the single-sided, derisive comments made about it.

Quote from: RPGPunditBy the way:

Rotwang: Loved your post. It was brilliant.

Hinterwelt: Interesting how I'm "damaged goods" yet still good enough to write a fucking sourcebook for you, huh?

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You aren't writing a source book for me, you are writing it for Zachary. If you dislike that relationship you needn't continue. Personally, I have no idea why you even considered working with me.

As for you being damaged goods, well, look at this reaction for an example of your greater behavior. I posted positively, trying to bring balance to the one sided view, and you make it about you. I find that to be disturbing behavior beyond your usual hyperbole.

You seem unable to understand the difference between a professional relationship and a personal evaluation. You writing a manuscript that I will produce and my views of your emotional state have little relationship beyond how it affects your ability to take direction, work professionally with me, and hand off a finished product. I have never worked with you before and perhaps this is the learning experience we both need concerning our ability to interact.

And, yes, I will say it here again, I think you have issues. Some folks will be fine with that, others will leave in a huff but in the end, I am still here. I just try to avoid posting in your threads. In the end, I try to get along but I will not be your booster or cow-tow to you. I will call it like I see it. As I see it, I do not think you are one wit concerned with my view of you and that you have little more than contempt for me on the rare occasion I enter your field of view. If we can just ignore each other I think we will enjoy this site far more.

Bill

Jesus fuck, all that because I think Roma Imperious is bad alt-history (not to mention bad latin)?

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Quote from: RPGPunditJesus fuck, all that because I think Roma Imperious is bad alt-history (not to mention bad latin)?

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No. By the gods, no. I do not have to explain it because you know what the issues are, others have done a far better job of explaining it.

As for Roma, I have had far better people that I respect a great deal more point out what they dislike about my work. Look at some of the reviews of my books on RPG.Net. I have a lot of respect for Rafael and he did not like Nebuleon one bit.

"All that" was because you stated I had so little respect for someone I was working with but was willing to use them despite those views. That is not me. Ask any of the freelancers, fans or professionals I have worked with and they will tell you I have always treated them professionally and with courtesy.

Again, I think you have wasted more time on me than you could possibly believe it is worth.

Bill

Pundy, I don't think there's anything counter-intuitive or weird about HWs position.  

He's saying that he trusts your judgement enough to have a professional relationship with you but that doesn't mean he wants to start swapping spit with you in the shower.

Quote from: RPGPunditActually, no. I was banned from RPG.net when I made the mistake of checking out Tangency, caught one of Amado's rants against the evils of America and consumerist society and how he was a cool marxist or whatever, and posted a response where I said "you must be posting from YOUR SECRET HEADQUARTERS IN THE JUNGLE.  That's some pretty amazing satellite connection you have there while fighting guerrilla warfare.. because I mean, surely you ARE actually fighting as a marxist revolutionary and not just some pampered college boy appreciating all of the luxuries that western civilization has to offer while simultaneously shitting all over it with statements you don't really understand but read in some first-year political science course taught by aging marxists, to be fashionable, right?"

That right there makes me love you, despite your ocassional manifestation of multiple personality disorder.

Amado... you could always count on him to stand up to The Man, that's for sure. Never really butted heads with him, but I did like the way that if you said anything even remotely critical of illegal immigration, he'd bust out the "RACIST" hammer and start talking about taking back the Southwest.

Quote from: Werekoala...I did like the way that if you said anything even remotely critical of illegal immigration, he'd bust out the "RACIST" hammer...

Say, maybe that's where the rumor that Nox and Amado were the same person. Add three exclamation points and it's a perfect match. :haw:

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Good show in that thread, DocRot.

FWIW I think Darren has a good point about the size of boards and their moderation policies.

RPGnet has some of the most reactionary and oppressive moderation techniques I have ever seen.

Quote from: ZalmoxisRPGnet has some of the most reactionary and oppressive moderation techniques I have ever seen.

Tangency is the source of most of those policies.  Culling it would solve those same problems.

Quote from: Mr. AnalyticalI second the motion.  We all know the failings of TBP and who some of us choose to not post there and why some of us can't post there.  I don't think it's particularly fruitful to keep bitching about the place.

  a) it makes it look as though we're obsessed.
  b) it's not particularly interesting
  c) I'm not completely comfortable with the homophobic stuff that gets thrown around when talking about Curt.

  Frankly, if people want to display their dislike for TBP, the best thing they can possibly do is post good positive content here, thereby underlining what RPGnet's moderation policy is costing them.

  I seriously urge people to shut the fuck up about TBP.  Let them do their thing, we'll do ours and basta.

Amen. I'll cop that for a short moment I had my issues with Big Purple, then I realized how stupid that was. It's just not my cuppa tea anymore. I'd much rather see this place continue to be the kinda place I want to be at, and that has little to do with all of this whinging.

Quote from: Bradford C. WalkerTangency is the source of most of those policies.  Culling it would solve those same problems.

I was just arguing with someone who used those very same words somewhere... maybe Pundit's blog?

Quote from: JamesVAmen. I'll cop that for a short moment I had my issues with Big Purple, then I realized how stupid that was. It's just not my cuppa tea anymore. I'd much rather see this place continue to be the kinda place I want to be at, and that has little to do with all of this whinging.

It's rather ironic, I think.  People point at one thread on RPGnet, and the occasional random post as proof as to how RPGnet is "running scared" of this site.  Yet over here, you can find thread after thread after thread devoted to ranting, railing and insulting RPGnet.

I'm sure the mods over there are flattered at the amount of attention there is devoted to their every action.  It's just like a fanclub...

Quote from: Bradford C. WalkerTangency is the source of most of those policies.  Culling it would solve those same problems.

It would also solve some of the issues that Darren et al were mentioning, being such a huge site and all.  And yet, culling Tangency would also cull the majority of their advertising base.  Face the music fellas -- Tangency is the driving force of TBP now.

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Quote from: Ian AbsentiaIt would also solve some of the issues that Darren et al were mentioning, being such a huge site and all.  And yet, culling Tangency would also cull the majority of their advertising base.  Face the music fellas -- Tangency is the driving force of TBP now.

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I dunno.  Given that almost the only advertisement I see on RPGnet now is for Final Fantasy, I would postualte that their core audience for marketing is that of Video Games Open, not necessarily Tangency.

What few other ads there are, however, or for roleplaying games, and even FF is at least distantly related to rolepalying games, if not one itself.