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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2008, 10:28:01 PM »
Contrary to what you might think, though, there are reports that the guy was also generally anti-Christian.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/28/national/main4298321_page2.shtml
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Karen Massey, who lived two houses from Adkisson's home, told the Knoxville News Sentinel of a lengthy conversation she had with Adkisson a couple years ago after she told him her daughter had just graduated from Johnson Bible College. She said she ended up having to explain to him that she was a Christian.

"He almost turned angry," she told the newspaper. "He seemed to get angry at that. He said that everything in the Bible contradicts itself if you read it."

Massey said Adkisson talked frequently about his parents, who "made him go to church all his life. ... He acted like he was forced to do that."

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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2008, 10:37:33 PM »
Hush, you're disturbing his insightful commentary.

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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2008, 10:41:15 PM »
Extremely tragic. Of course, his politics were just an excuse; though certainly the more extreme partisan end of the right-wing talk show/writers circuit can be nearly criminally irresponsible in their depictions of liberals.
You see some of the same in the extreme end of left-wing pundits too, but in the states they tend to be far less commonly read or listened to.

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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2008, 11:06:57 PM »
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Contrary to what you might think, though, there are reports that the guy was also generally anti-Christian.


If he went after Unitarians, I think it makes more sense that he did so because he was anti-liberal than anti-Christian.  If he was a right-wing nut, then he was a right-wing nut and deserves to be convicted for first degree murder and I don't see a lot of defense of him on right-wing message boards.  

The real hero here is Greg McKendry, who according to accounts put himself in front of the shooter to protect others and likely saved several other people at the expense of his own life.
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2008, 02:30:59 AM »
Oh, yes, I didn't mean to suggest he went after Unitarians because he hated Christians. At this stage it sure looks like he was a "right-wing nut". It's just that, contrary to popular perceptions (which I don't think are entirely unjustified) there was apparently in his case no correlation between anti-liberal attitudes and an attachment to traditional religion.

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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2008, 03:03:04 AM »
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certainly the more extreme partisan end of the right-wing talk show/writers circuit can be nearly criminally irresponsible in their depictions of liberals.
You see some of the same in the extreme end of left-wing pundits too, but in the states they tend to be far less commonly read or listened to.


I agree on both points.  In parts of continental Europe it's not that unusual to see the 'respectable' Left whipping up violent hate that can result in murder, as with the killing of Theo Van Gogh.  In the US such incitement seems to be consigned to the fringes of the Left, albeit those fringes can be influential (Rev Wright's influence on Obama, say).  Conversely some commentators on the US Right can be guilty of dehumanising 'Liberals' as badly as any Leftist dehumanises 'the Rightwing' - one effect of which is that many US conservatives seem to be left unable to distinguish between regular social democrats and genuine Hard Left Maoist types.

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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2008, 03:38:36 AM »
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Extremely tragic. Of course, his politics were just an excuse; though certainly the more extreme partisan end of the right-wing talk show/writers circuit can be nearly criminally irresponsible in their depictions of liberals.
You see some of the same in the extreme end of left-wing pundits too, but in the states they tend to be far less commonly read or listened to.

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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2008, 04:57:16 AM »
Even Michael Moore, the most noxious liberal windbag with any sort of actual media platform from which to reach people, is nothing compared to the sort of hatred spewed on a regular basis by the masses of right wing commentators.

Hell, even that idiot with his "little eichmans" crap wasn't being half as nasty as Michelle Malkin on a good day.

Also, and this may just be my bias showing, I find the targets of leftists hate -- the rich, powerful and elitist who dehumanize those whose shouders they ride on -- much less sympathetic than the targets of right wing hate: the poor, the disenfranchised, minorities, gays, women, immigrants, etc.  That alone makes right wing hate seem infinitely nastier.
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2008, 08:57:12 AM »
Conservative political pundits did not pull the trigger on a shotgun that killed 2 and injured 5 in a Knoxville church.

A crazy named Adkinson pulled that trigger.

Trying to blame this tragedy on conservative political pundits makes as much sense as Patricia Pulling blaming the "satanic" influence of Dungeons & Dragons for the suicide of her son.
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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2008, 09:20:53 AM »
That analogy would be much more accurate if D&D had chapters and rulebooks devoted to how much better suicide is compared to living.
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2008, 09:56:45 AM »
Funny. If these right-wing pundits wanted this to happen, wou;dn't they be crowing from the rooftops, or their golden microphones?

Let ya know after 3pm today.

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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2008, 10:50:02 AM »
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Funny. If these right-wing pundits wanted this to happen, wou;dn't they be crowing from the rooftops, or their golden microphones?

Let ya know after 3pm today.


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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2008, 11:24:47 AM »
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I think you'd have to work pretty hard to find the left equivalent of Coulter.


Leftist assassins like the Black Panthers have killed a lot of people, but I agree that in the USA you don't generally see leftist demagogues with the breadth of Coulter's platform.  They're usually confined to racial or political minority groups.

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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2008, 11:26:51 AM »
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I think you'd have to work pretty hard to find the left equivalent of Coulter.


Michael Moore?

Al Franken?


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