Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1145718Plenty of Lovecraft's stories, like "The Dunwich Horror" and "Beyond the Wall of Sleep," depict white hillbillies as subhuman vermin too.

In The Dunwich Horror, he also makes it a point to mention the "uncorrupted" Whateleys. He doesn't seem to have a problem with country people but he does seem to touch on themes of inbreeding.

Quote from: Lynn;1145841In The Dunwich Horror, he also makes it a point to mention the "uncorrupted" Whateleys. He doesn't seem to have a problem with country people but he does seem to touch on themes of inbreeding.

He touches on it quite a bit. He also liked to show that old beliefs might have some basis in truth or actually be needed to ward off things from beyond. Time and again its the writings and rituals of ancient non-white people that end up somehow saving the day while 9 times out of 10 its the writings of whites that cause the current impending disaster.

But all people see is "hes Wacist!"

Quote from: Omega;1145964He touches on it quite a bit. He also liked to show that old beliefs might have some basis in truth or actually be needed to ward off things from beyond. Time and again its the writings and rituals of ancient non-white people that end up somehow saving the day while 9 times out of 10 its the writings of whites that cause the current impending disaster.

But all people see is "hes Wacist!"

Amazing considering he postulated that white people are descendants of White apes...

https://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/faj.aspx

Lovecraft Country will be the first Lovecraft inspired media that I won't watch.
It's insanely revisionist to the point of being bizarre. But hey, 2020.

As for the black victim narrative, I wonder how much of its being pushed for the masturbation of white liberals with their virtue signalling white knight fantasies vs. trying to convince black Americans they somehow live in the most racist place that's ever existed.

What did you expect from Jordan "I don't see my self doing a movie with a white man as the lead" Peele?

Dude is a massive racist, therefore all white characters are gonna be Evil and all black characters are gonna be Perfectly Good and have armor plot.

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1146791What did you expect from Jordan "I don't see my self doing a movie with a white man as the lead" Peele?

Dude is a massive racist, therefore all white characters are gonna be Evil and all black characters are gonna be Perfectly Good and have armor plot.

I find him a great meauring tool for wokeness in others. If they don't find him racist then they are a useful idiot tier of woke.

I just like Shadenfreud.


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Quote from: Ratman_tf on September 03, 2020, 11:05:24 AM
I just like Shadenfreud.


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Jews should stop being ok with anti-white discrimination overall.

I was on vacation with The Missus this past weekend and happened to turn on the TV when episode 7 of this show was on. I have not seen any other episodes. So I'm gonna recap what I saw.

First, a white lady is doing Mythos-adjacent stuff, turning bodies into potions which allow her to transform and have sex with someone. The sex was in a previous episode. This was maybe two minutes of material, and is pretty much it for the episode as far as Cthulhu-style stuff goes. Nothing like getting all that dull, boring Lovecraft-related material out of the way right at the start, eh?

Then we have about twenty minutes of uninteresting (to me) character building. Maybe a half hour. Moving on because I don't want to rag on it. Just wasn't my thing.

Main character appears to be a female Sheldon Cooper and can do extremely complicated math in her head. We know this because math appears in the air. She's futzing with a machine. There are numbers that appear to be spatial coordinates, which show up a lot. I mean a LOT. Oh no! The police arrive because she is not supposed to be there. There is a fracas, the police shoot the machine which opens a gate and nobody had to sacrifice POW to do so. Or maybe the police did. I don't know. One got sucked into a random gate location, the other is shot and killed by the husband.

She gets sucked into the gate and winds up on Distant Alien Planet. Giant aliens in admittedly cool dark Iron Man and/or Tron (do kids today understand Tron? Let's just go with Iron Man) armor capture her, which is probably for the best when one is on an alien planet with no way of returning home.

Main character is thrown into a jail cell, where she finds herself totally nekkid but quickly finds clothes. Alien shows up without the Iron Man helmet, and turns out the alien is female and has the biggest, pointiest afro you've ever seen. It defies physics. Main character tries to math her way out and starts tearing up the cell and the table she was on. Sections of the table float because Space.

Alien woman shows up again and puts a stop to that nonsense, then sends the main character back in time without the benefit of DeLorean or Michael J. Fox, back to Paris in umpty ought something. She's doing a burlesque dance with a bunch of other women.  They get topless, she doesn't because she doesn't know the steps and was already completely nude earlier. Time passes and her dancing improves. No further nudity. Main character talks about how she hates white men and wants to kill them (that isn't paraphrasing, she actually says the words "I hate white men and want to kill them"). She gets sent further back in time to learn how to better kill white men, then gets to kill a bunch of Confederate soldiers with a sword.

She then returns to outer space in a very "what the 1950s thinks is the future" spaceship and outfit (complete with floating hoops) and has an I'm Every Woman, It's All In Me moment.

For the benefit of the show, I'm going to assume the aliens were the Great Race of Yith appearing in a form she'd appreciate. It is a very generous assumption, and warranted by absolutely nothing that I saw apart from "sent other character into the past."

So that was the episode.  Even more damning than being openly hostile towards my attention, you have a show called Lovecraft Country that can't be bothered to show me one fucking monster in an hour episode. I don't think that is too much to ask.

When I saw the beginning of the first episode of Lovecraft Country I noticed how the main characters father somehow knew that Lovecraft wrote that horrifically racist essay. But the problem with that is that almost no one knew about Lovecraft in the 1930s or 40s. Only his tight knit group of friends and associates knew his awesome books. Anyways I am not pleased with the constant shitting on Lovecraft and his work. I mean yes he was a Racist, but honestly so was everyone else in his era. So in summary, The SJWs need to realized that some of them will be considered horribly offensive in 50 years.

Quote from: arcanuum on October 08, 2020, 12:34:29 AM
The SJWs need to realized that some of them will be considered horribly offensive in 50 years.

I'd argue the tipping point for that is already several years past, soon the avalanche will arrive.

From the sound of things, this book/show is little more than racist cultural appropriation.

Quote from: Lurkndog on October 29, 2020, 12:55:11 PM

Quote from: arcanuum on October 08, 2020, 12:34:29 AM
The SJWs need to realized that some of them will be considered horribly offensive in 50 years.

I'd argue the tipping point for that is already several years past, soon the avalanche will arrive.

From the sound of things, this book/show is little more than racist cultural appropriation.

Its cyclic.
Each new iteration points at the prior ones and declares them racist. in 2030 it will be the 2010 iterations turn to be the racists and their "progressive inclusive diverse" works vilified.

Oh this is good.

Was looking up a Lovecraft bit on Yog Sothogh and someones added to Wikipedia

QuoteKenneth Grant suggested Lovecraft's description of Yog-Sothoth as a conglomeration of "malignant globes" may have been inspired by the Spheres of the Qliphoth.

Pretty sure that has been added to infer Lovecraft was antisemitic. Rather than the original intent to show he might have drew upon Jewish material for inspiration.

I have my doubts Lovecraft was aware of any of that stuff. Occultists like to make him out as being tapped into occult currents so they can imply he was actually possessed of occult knowledge, but he was writing scary stories and was more influenced by Poe and Machen. The guy knew his stories weren't real--he gave Robert Bloch permission to kill him in a story, signed by Yog-Sothoth and his other gods. He then returned the favor in 'The Haunter of the Dark'. These pulp guys were all fooling around and didn't take their stuff that seriously.

Thats my view too.

But these anti-Lovecraft woke cultists want to twist anything to read to their agenda. Which makes the entry use suspect.