Quote from: Andy KFINALLY, A THREAD WHERE WE CAN BITCH ABOUT RPG.NET!

Yeah, because we know there has never been a thread where we can bitch about rpg.net here.  

Quote from: GoOrangeYeah, so a while ago they created a special D20 subforum, which had quite a few critics, and a few proponents as well. This kind of rubbed me the wrong way, but wasn't the end of the world.

The mods, those poor overworked volunteers, somehow manage to weed out every new post that talks about D20 and move it into the subspecialty forum. Now a thread that is intended for a general audience has been funneled into a subforum, where only a fraction of the total forum audience will see it. You know, just maybe a HERO fan is interested in WotC's marketing schemes.

It just seems to get worse every day. There's always a new rule that must get followed to the letter of RPG.net law, regardless of how much sense it makes. Don't the mods have enough work to do banning personal attacks or something? Do they really need to alienate more people by moving their posts inappropriately? Has it ever occurred to a mod that a post that mentions d20 may actually be about the industry as whole?

Argh. It's just frustrating. Someone needs to go over there and swat the mods with the stick of common sense and reason. Am I the only one who gets fed up with their crap?

One of the main reasons I barely go to rpg.net anymore is because it has become a hostile place to go and you have to watch every word you say.

Yes, therpgsite can be hostile but I don't have to worry that one little slipup will get me banned.

That is I think part of the appeal of The RPG Site and my forum (for a small part), there are forums you can go to to talk about rpgs and not have to worry about every word that comes out of your mouth.

Quote from: WilThat's actually not a bad idea. Or, take related groups of forums and have them each sitting on their own Vbulletin installation. Like many software solutions, Vbulletin is "sold" on the idea that it's easy to maintain and a one-stop implementation. The reality is with anything database related each implementation is going to be different and one size fits all doesn't always work.

Well actually they set up a seperate Sci FI Discussion forum (I am guessing on the same server) and that is using PhpBB.

Seriously, I bet if they got rid of Tangency and the other non-rpg related forums it would help a great deal.

But they wont

Quote from: Pierce InverarityWhat bugs me is that this particular decision doesn't make any kind of sense, and I did read Shannon's explanations. I've disagreed with rpg.net decisions in the past, but I do get why they've been implemented.

But to start a d20 forum in 2007? As opposed to 2000 through 2003? Beats me.

It appears to be doing really well.

It doesn't appear that either Open or the D20 forums are suffering at all from the seperation.

I don't see a problem.

Quote from: grubmanFunny thing is I thought it would be the Open forum I would be visiting and the D20 forum would be the big pain in the ass.  As it is, I find all the interesting threads on the D20 forum now (especially with Star Wars Saga being my primary interest and game I'm GMing for the summer, and D&D being the other game I'm currently playing).  I check Open once a day, but have hardly posted there at all anymore.

I feel the same way, both with not liking the split but at the same time finding the D20 forum more useful.  For me at least, the signal-to-noise ratio in the D20 forum is a lot lower than it is in Open.

Quote from: Blue DevilIt appears to be doing really well.

It doesn't appear that either Open or the D20 forums are suffering at all from the seperation.

I don't see a problem.

Shhh.  That's not the point.  The point is to have excuses to bitch about RPGnet!  Silly Devil.

Personally, I've never witnessed any hostility, never had to "watch my words", never seen any "mod abuse", etc., etc., etc.  ad nauseum.  I make no claim that that's true for everyone.  Obviously some people have had problems.  It's certainly not universal, though.  RPGnet has always been a pleasant place with interesting conversations.  I tend to avoid the various argument threads, which takes little effort.  I didn't even notice the new D20 sub-forum had been created.  I do notice it has a prominent link on the front page, so I see nothing "ghetto" about it.

I've been a regular there since it's initial incarnation.  I have nothing to complain about at all.

You know how when a group of friends splits up over an argument, or a couple splits up?  Both sides usually spend the next few months trash-talking each other and finding fault in everything they do.  This reminds me a lot of that.

I know...maybe Pundit should create a new Sub-Forum dedicated to trashing RPGnet!  

Quote from: joewolzScrew RPG.net, you should stay here.  I think your ideas would gain more credence and you'd have more fun here than there.

Bandanna face FTW.

Quote from: AnemoneWe keep fooling ourselves with the concept that an online forum is a community.  It's a community in that you meet many people with relatively similar interests, and the forum gradually takes on a certain colour.  But it's not a community in that, no matter how groovy the group may be, the forum is always owned and operated by one person or a very small number of persons.  

I think the best analogy is a restaurant or pub. If you go there enough, and see other regulars there enough, it'll start to feel like "our place." But the owners can kick you out at any time for no reason at all, because really it's their place. Or it could get closed down for not paying rent or to build a shopping mall or something - at any time, someone could pull the plug, because it's their place. It's never really ours in a practical sense.

Which is shitty, but there you go.

So, you know, if the pub owner wants to make one section of the pub for people drinking beer, and another section for people drinking spirits, and then when the guy with the beers buys a double bourbon for his buddy, move them both out into the spirits section, well it's a bit crazy but what can you do.

Well if its a "Pub" - the doors have been boarded up and locked for close to two days now  with no note from the proprieter on whats going on.

 I have noticed folks who have accounts ands handles at all three forums I frequent showing up more on here and on SJG since the downing of rpg.net yesterday.  

- Ed C.

Funny, I generally find it more newsworthy whent they're up.

Oh well, my guess is that Tangency represents a significant percentage of their traffic and thus ad revenue.

PaladinCA, walkerp, welcome to our nasty, hateful corner of the net (if propaganda is to be believed). The waitress will be out with your margaritas in a moment.

More on topic, I wonder if people who paid Skotos for a yearly membership get credit back for the days the site's down? I'm betting no.

Frankly, the outages should be humiliating to the staff and Skotos. Modthesims2.com, which runs on donations and small Google ads, pulls 15 terabytes a month in bandwidth with an active user base of several hundred thousand and goes down about once every two years. The last time being because Paypal fucked them.

rpg.net still seems to be zoinked as i type, which wouldn't be a problem except for the fact i'd asked for some help on how the fuck Galactic Civilizations 2 works. Bloody games.

Quote from: signoftheserpentrpg.net still seems to be zoinked as i type, which wouldn't be a problem except for the fact i'd asked for some help on how the fuck Galactic Civilizations 2 works. Bloody games.

What is that? A computer game? we do have an electronic games forum.. maybe someone here knows, you should try to go and ask.

RPGPundit

I notice the rpg.net mods have started coming here as well.

So much for our secret identities!

Quote from: signoftheserpentrpg.net still seems to be zoinked as i type, which wouldn't be a problem except for the fact i'd asked for some help on how the fuck Galactic Civilizations 2 works. Bloody games.

Well, it annoys me because we had two reviews for WWII: Operation Jedburgh slated to appear on Friday.  But, since I don't pay them for membership I suppose I can't complain.  Much.  

Pete