Quote from: tenbones;1127056This right here.

Hell that's my immediate *starting point* when I run my games in Star Wars. I have *zero* connection to the movies. I pick a sector, do a little research, then come up with my own sandbox and fill it with stuff I like, then make connections to elements that exist in the EU that give it meat.

I really wanted to do it myself but so much of the fanbase is filled with morons that just want more han solo.

Its the fallacy that experiencing more star wars would require more of the same. When you need more of the same-ish but with fresh elements.

Quote from: tenbones;1127056Hell that's my immediate *starting point* when I run my games in Star Wars. I have *zero* connection to the movies. I pick a sector, do a little research, then come up with my own sandbox and fill it with stuff I like, then make connections to elements that exist in the EU that give it meat.

That's my go-to as well, but I also play "What If" with the timeline. Greedo kills Han, now what? I did that and had the PCs in the bar...which resulted on a TPK on the Death Star and Vader got Luke as his protege with Obiwan escaping in the PC's ship to evacuate Yavin. Their next set of PCs were on Yavin when Obiwan arrives and that resulted in another TPK on Hoth. My players had fun (especially the Hoth fight between PCs + Obiwan vs. Luke and Vader), but hot damn, I really don't know how to run Star Wars right! I'm so much more comfortable with 40k.

I just realized why the end of Picard left such a sour taste in my mouth.

The whole bit with Data was pointless, except to provide Picard with some vague closure. That's it. And what is this fucking obsession with 'dying is meaningful'?

Don't know if any of you read Avengers: No Road Home, but in #9 of that series, Conan (yeah, the barbarian -- long story) has a beautiful rant about that line of horseshit.

(Vision tells him how the android is dying and grateful for it, as it means he's mortal)
"...You're a fool. You think dying makes you human? Being human makes you die. Our bodies break. Disease claims us. Despair poisons us. You think that has meaning? That we want it? We FIGHT it! Like rats fight the trap! And we SCREAM! And BEG! And CURSE! And Crom DOES NOT CARE! And NEITHER DO I! But what I want, steel devil, is for you to FIGHT BACK!"

As far as I could tell, there was no explanation given as to why Data couldn't be 'downloaded' into a new body. Restored to life, as it were. Yes, at that point he was in a quantum simulation, but you had a planet of androids and the freakin' latest Dr. Soong, you cannot tell me that wasn't possible.

But because 'oh noez, I am sad android' he has Picard shut down the simulation. What the fuck.

Quote from: Ghostmaker;1127429That's it. And what is this fucking obsession with 'dying is meaningful'?

Because everybody dies eventually. While it's important to cling to life, there is also a necessity to understanding limits.
The entire human experience is the back and forth on fighting our limitations but understanding our limits. Reality and fiction is filled with people that did ghoulish and monstrous things because they needed that extra breath even if it meant drinking the figurative (or literal) blood of others.
I mean the Story Red Nails from Connan deals with this sort of thing as well and its regarded as one of its best works. Stealing youth, decadence and decay and self-destructiveness.

Now, absolutely none of this shit applies to Picard however. And the explanation of why it was in Picard is that Alex Kurtzman is a hack that only cares for short term emotional bursts and cares not for how to get there and the why.

[video=youtube_share;TwF1iri1GjQ]https://youtu.be/TwF1iri1GjQ[/youtube]

I only skimmed the video. How many different ways can you repeat "Picard is terrible"?

Quote from: Ghostmaker;1127429I just realized why the end of Picard left such a sour taste in my mouth.

The whole bit with Data was pointless, except to provide Picard with some vague closure. That's it. And what is this fucking obsession with 'dying is meaningful'?

Don't know if any of you read Avengers: No Road Home, but in #9 of that series, Conan (yeah, the barbarian -- long story) has a beautiful rant about that line of horseshit.

(Vision tells him how the android is dying and grateful for it, as it means he's mortal)
"...You're a fool. You think dying makes you human? Being human makes you die. Our bodies break. Disease claims us. Despair poisons us. You think that has meaning? That we want it? We FIGHT it! Like rats fight the trap! And we SCREAM! And BEG! And CURSE! And Crom DOES NOT CARE! And NEITHER DO I! But what I want, steel devil, is for you to FIGHT BACK!"

As far as I could tell, there was no explanation given as to why Data couldn't be 'downloaded' into a new body. Restored to life, as it were. Yes, at that point he was in a quantum simulation, but you had a planet of androids and the freakin' latest Dr. Soong, you cannot tell me that wasn't possible.

But because 'oh noez, I am sad android' he has Picard shut down the simulation. What the fuck.

Welp, seems someone in Marvel does kinda understand Conan, a shame I'm not putting money in that company nor willing to pirate shit.

Havent watched Pickard, watched Red Letter Medias recaps of the bad parts of the episodes and had some fun:)

All in all i recommend doing that instead of watching Kurtzman anything he ever created. Hes an even worse creator than.. i honestly struggle to find a bad enough creator.

In other news apparently they are creating a Captain Pike tv show. Hes already doomed by cannon so why cares, another male male lead will bite the dust. So whats the point actually? Beats me.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1130557[video=youtube_share;TwF1iri1GjQ]https://youtu.be/TwF1iri1GjQ[/youtube]

I only skimmed the video. How many different ways can you repeat "Picard is terrible"?

That video is as bad as the show it's criticizing when it comes to not following a direct line of thought. I stopped listening after 20 minutes and let it run for another 10 before I put my book down to shut it off.

Quote from: HappyDaze;1130695That video is as bad as the show it's criticizing when it comes to not following a direct line of thought. I stopped listening after 20 minutes and let it run for another 10 before I put my book down to shut it off.

I'm usually a fan of RLM and the Plinkett reviews, but yes. This is probably the worst Plinkett review. It feels both rushed and full of rambly filler. The reViews are better. This feels like Mike Stolatska just trying to yell at the show creators one last time before hitting the "Cancel" button on his CBS All Access account.

Hell, he could have done just that and made fun of himself as the slighted fan and that would have been more entertaining.

Official startrek.com website posts opinion article about how Picard was meant to stick it to the old, white guy.

Ahem.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1119239I can hardly think of a more fertile ground for a cynical show full of assholes being assholes, that takes a huge, steaming dump on Star Trek.

So fuck 'em.

This is the kind of psuedo-intellectual, ideological twiddle twaddle that is dragging entertainment into the stinky gutter of identity politics.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1130730Official startrek.com website posts opinion article about how Picard was meant to stick it to the old, white guy.

This is the kind of psuedo-intellectual, ideological twiddle twaddle that is dragging entertainment into the stinky gutter of identity politics.

On the other hand, along with Star Wars 7-9, they are saving you a lot of money because you'll never want to spend one more penny towards them or any licensed products.

That's about the most repugnant thing I have seen written about Star Trek.

Quote from: Lynn;1130733On the other hand, along with Star Wars 7-9, they are saving you a lot of money because you'll never want to spend one more penny towards them or any licensed products.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1130717I'm usually a fan of RLM and the Plinkett reviews, but yes. This is probably the worst Plinkett review. It feels both rushed and full of rambly filler. The reViews are better. This feels like Mike Stolatska just trying to yell at the show creators one last time before hitting the "Cancel" button on his CBS All Access account.

I think its a case of not trying to repeat himself and....It's just not something to really review in a traditional sense. If the Star Trek Films where a ground war then Star Trek Picard and discovery is a war of extermination.
What's there to say about Picard? That it's lazy? Incoherent? Stupid? Hateful?
It's just so stupid incoherent stupid and hateful in such a concentrated manner what's there to say? It's like shellshock. You can analyze the show every 3 minutes and something new is defiled to itself, the past, and the future.

The video was more therapy for himself.

Some of us have to wait until it is on DVD and Blu-ray - so all of you elitist snobs enjoy the luxury of your streaming and ruining and spoiling things for other people by arguing about them,.

- Ed C.

Quote from: Koltar;1130763Some of us have to wait until it is on DVD and Blu-ray - so all of you elitist snobs enjoy the luxury of your streaming and ruining and spoiling things for other people by arguing about them,.

- Ed C.

Why is your opinion so predicated on everybody also enjoying something? What are you actually enjoying if hearing people arguing about its merits ruins it for you?

Id just forgo DVDs and just watch paint dry.