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« on: July 21, 2019, 12:41:54 AM »


Christ, this looks terrible. They've run Star Trek into the ground, and now they have to drag up Next Gen characters to try to drum up some enthusiasm.
I suppose it never occured to anyone to fix their shitty writing.
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2019, 08:08:43 AM »
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Christ, this looks terrible. They've run Star Trek into the ground, and now they have to drag up Next Gen characters to try to drum up some enthusiasm.
I suppose it never occured to anyone to fix their shitty writing.

Their best writer left the DS9 team and created NuBSG.

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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2019, 05:48:32 PM »
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Their best writer left the DS9 team and created NuBSG.

And that show was one good season and three of utter shit.

Not much of a lose in my opinion.

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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2019, 07:05:24 PM »
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And that show was one good season and three of utter shit.

Not much of a lose in my opinion.

I'd argue two and a half seasons. That's where I lost interest.
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2019, 07:38:39 PM »
Trailer looks good really.

But...

This is CBS involved which still practically mandates failure. 25% has to be different from the source. ugh!

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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2019, 08:16:54 PM »
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Their best writer left the DS9 team and created NuBSG.

  Clarification: DS9 finished its run and Moore went to Voyager, left after three episodes, and then created NuBSG.

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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2019, 09:19:21 PM »
The Picard show looks sad and lame, somehow more boring than ST:NG.

And the "new cast members" are abysmal. Even worse than the usual dull ST casts. The 7 of 9 cameo was decent fan service, but the show probably should have been Picard & Friends, aka, whoever they could get from NG, DS9 and Voyager who needed a paycheck.

But they got people to pay for SJW Trek with Discovery so why not suck more cash out of the same audience.

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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2019, 12:55:59 PM »
Star Trek's inception could easily be described as 'SJW'.
When I say objectively, I mean 'subjectively'.  When I say literally, I mean 'figuratively'.  
And when I say that you are a horse's ass, I mean that the objective truth is that you are a literal horse's ass.

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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2019, 01:10:13 PM »
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Star Trek's inception could easily be described as 'SJW'.

   The evidence for people disliking Discovery because of cast diversity as shown by that article is a handful of tweets, the most popular of which barely breaks a score of likes in the screenshot. This feels too much like an attempt to push the 'all critics are racist/sexist/misogynist/homophobic/transphobic/Islamophobic/polyphobic/diablophobic' narrative that we've seen before.

   I only watched the first episode of Discovery and didn't follow up because a) I generally don't use streaming services, and b) Michael Burnham reminded me too much of Janeway … SFDebris' Janeway.

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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2019, 03:13:51 PM »
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The Picard show looks sad and lame, somehow more boring than ST:NG.

And the "new cast members" are abysmal. Even worse than the usual dull ST casts. The 7 of 9 cameo was decent fan service, but the show probably should have been Picard & Friends, aka, whoever they could get from NG, DS9 and Voyager who needed a paycheck.

I going to predict the show will be more about Magical Kung-Fu Girl of Destiny, with Picard and Seven merely being supporting characters for whatever bullshit story arc Kurtzman pulled out of his ass.
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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2019, 07:00:53 PM »
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Star Trek's inception could easily be described as 'SJW'.

Except Original Star Trek was not SJW. Try again please.

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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2019, 07:11:01 PM »
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Star Trek's inception could easily be described as 'SJW'.


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« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2019, 01:30:59 PM »
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Except Original Star Trek was not SJW. Try again please.


Maybe I don't understand what you mean when you use the term.

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When I say objectively, I mean 'subjectively'.  When I say literally, I mean 'figuratively'.  
And when I say that you are a horse's ass, I mean that the objective truth is that you are a literal horse's ass.

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« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2019, 02:15:33 PM »
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I have to admit that Spinachcat opened that door, not deadDMwalking.

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Maybe I don't understand what you mean when you use the term.

Let That Be Your Last Battlefield

I'd say that episode is the opposite of Social Justice. I find that SJ is heavily invested in identity politics, and neither character was portrayed as morally superior. They both were driven by hatred of the other.
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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2019, 09:36:11 PM »
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I have to admit that Spinachcat opened that door, not deadDMwalking.



I'd say that episode is the opposite of Social Justice. I find that SJ is heavily invested in identity politics, and neither character was portrayed as morally superior. They both were driven by hatred of the other.

In other word why hatred for hatreds sake is BAD.
sjw social just-us warriors

now for a few quotes from my fathers generation
"kill a commie for mommy"

"hey thee i walk through the valley of the shadow of death but i fear no evil because im the meanest son of a bitch in the valley"