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« Reply #255 on: February 08, 2008, 12:09:35 PM »
Sure, it's nice to have him come and make an effort to communicate clearly, but  his language and thinking is so deeply steeped in that patronizing moderator culture that it's all for moot.  I mean he's actually discussing the various "legal" reasons why the suspension should have been 2 days instead of 3.  To me, it's like arguing over how many mea culpas you have to say for which sin.  That's great for Catholics but thankfully has nothing to do with me.

(and sorry for the 3rd person, Dan, if you're still reading this.)
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« Reply #256 on: February 08, 2008, 08:40:11 PM »
Presuming the Mods have a fairly clear list of rules to follow, it IS professional and expected to actually obey those rules when making a call.  I can't fault him for that, regardless of what I actually think of those rules.
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« Reply #257 on: February 08, 2008, 09:04:17 PM »
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And this thread on rpg.net is an excellent example of how proscriptive moderation can actually allow nastiness to happen.

Mr. Analytical dearly needs someone to tell him to fuck off. Of course he used to post here (his sig on rpg.net notes that he doesn't post here), but probably didn't like the plain speech; over there they have to put up with him and even treat his blather seriously.

His posts display a deep contempt for people in general, and gamers specifically (what he truly feels none can know, I speak only of what he posts). But they're not allowed to return it in kind.

I dunno, sometimes I read people's posts and they have an angry wildness to them, and that's okay, it'll pass and doesn't really mean much - but sometimes I really get the feeling of malice and deep contempt. I don't like that shit. How can a person live their life like that? It's fucked.


Harassing him off the site wasn't enough for you?  Now you need to read his posts elsewhere and criticise them?

Anyway, I had dinner with him Tuesday, I didn't notice him living in malice and contempt, he's quite a cheery person actually.

For what it's worth, I agree with his analysis, so please feel free to take me up on any points you take issue with.  On this he speaks for me, and I'm happy (in the roleplaying forum) to argue those points (when I have time obviously, I only get here occasionally these days sadly).

On an unrelated note, Pundy is right in this, he does here say stuff to folk's faces and if you talk back there's no penalty for doing so other than any shit he may throw back at you in turn.  It's why I post here in a nutshell, no other forum today allows that.

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« Reply #258 on: February 08, 2008, 09:07:20 PM »
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Taking Dan's posts at face value... and I have every reason to do so... he does come across as the most professional of the Moderators.  Not a hard thing to do, I know, but still a complimentary observation.


If Dan told me the sky had turned green I'd take it at face value, he's a straight guy in my experience.

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« Reply #259 on: February 08, 2008, 09:19:59 PM »
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If Dan told me the sky had turned green I'd take it at face value, he's a straight guy in my experience.


I've seen a "Green sky" - usually around sunset or sunrise when you can see all sorts of colors depending on what mood the great maker is in that day.

Sunrises, dancing, romance, Sunsets, love of friends and family,  music and gaming - the stuff that keeps us going.


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« Reply #260 on: February 08, 2008, 09:31:12 PM »
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I've seen a "Green sky" - usually around sunset or sunrise when you can see all sorts of colors depending on what mood the great maker is in that day.

Sunrises, dancing, romance, Sunsets, love of friends and family,  music and gaming - the stuff that keeps us going.


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Lucky you, that sounds cool.

And as for your second paragraph, I wholly agree.  The meaning of life, such as there is one, is in the details.

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« Reply #261 on: February 09, 2008, 12:26:53 PM »
Dan's OK, but he's got poor taste in his online friends.
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« Reply #262 on: February 09, 2008, 12:36:09 PM »
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Presuming the Mods have a fairly clear list of rules to follow, it IS professional and expected to actually obey those rules when making a call.  I can't fault him for that, regardless of what I actually think of those rules.


Which seems to be the crux of TBP's moderation problems. Do they have rules to follow? Do they follow them? Are they good rules?

It seems to be that they want to be PsiCops, handing down Solomon-esque judgements with snappy patter - "I perceive that you were about the break the rules, turd face! You might want to step back with the audience while I cut your baby in half!"

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« Reply #263 on: February 11, 2008, 07:15:49 AM »
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For what it's worth, I agree with his analysis, so please feel free to take me up on any points you take issue with.  On this he speaks for me, and I'm happy (in the roleplaying forum) to argue those points (when I have time obviously, I only get here occasionally these days sadly).


It's a pity you don't visit as often as you used to. I just caught up with the thread in question and must say, I agree a lot with what C.Kubasik and you have posted....but this could just be the result of my general disconnect with internet rpg culture.

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« Reply #264 on: February 12, 2008, 03:46:44 PM »
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It's a pity you don't visit as often as you used to. I just caught up with the thread in question and must say, I agree a lot with what C.Kubasik and you have posted....but this could just be the result of my general disconnect with internet rpg culture.

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« Reply #265 on: February 14, 2008, 07:50:27 AM »
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Harassing him off the site wasn't enough for you?  Now you need to read his posts elsewhere and criticise them?
How am I harassing him? I'm commenting in a public forum on his posts in a public forum. That's harassment? Mate, have you been reading too much Tangency again?

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Anyway, I had dinner with him Tuesday, I didn't notice him living in malice and contempt, he's quite a cheery person actually.
That's lovely to hear. I made no comment on what he's actually like. I said, "His posts display..." For all I know he spends every Saturday donating blood to haemophiliac Sudanese orphans and every Sunday after a cup of tea to revive himself from the donation he pops up with his clown act to cheer them up in their hospital beds.

But his posts are not terribly friendly towards gamers.
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