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« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2008, 10:07:19 pm »
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Davenport is a bit of a cocksucker, though.
Meh.  He's always been fair and level-headed with me.

I posted in a fit of pique, and called EpicHero a dickwad again, after knowing I shouldn't have done it the first time.

You plays by the rules of the guy whose house you plays in.  Are there times I want to call someone even worse things - hells yeah.  Nelzie drives me fucking bananas.  But, I know that if I do, I might hit a banstick.

It doesn't mean I can't do all sorts of things though.  I mean, I'm not exactly a gentle poster there, and this is the first suspension I've caught.

I call it like I see it.  Always have.  I knew eventually I'd get a ban cause I say something I shouldn't.

I do generally prefer the level of discourse there to most places.  The signal-to-noise is high, yeah, but man, sometimes the noise is damned fun.

Its a fun place.  The thing that keeps me from being more regular here is its not as FUN.  Its a decent enough place for discussion, but its that odd Tang vibe that keeps me going back to it.  I like being able to talk about anything - it makes it feel like a pub or just a buncha guys and gals hangin around shooting the breeze.  Sure, theres lots of good RPG discussion, but all RPG all the time gets boring even for me.

And theres some folks there that are plain worth sticking around for.  Theres a good number here - like the good Doctor - that are worth sticking around for as well.
 

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« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2008, 10:53:44 pm »
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The signal-to-noise is high, yeah...
You mean low, of course.
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...but its that odd Tang vibe that keeps me going back to it.
I used to enjoy it, too.  I realised that it had become virtually the only reason I was going there anymore, though.  And, regardless of claims to the contrary, the tone of the whole site had changed over time, and I'd become an anachronism.  But we've been down that road too many times, and to each his own.  I'm sorry you weren't able to speak your mind without punitive repercussions.

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« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2008, 11:41:14 pm »
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Its a fun place.  The thing that keeps me from being more regular here is its not as FUN.  Its a decent enough place for discussion, but its that odd Tang vibe that keeps me going back to it.  I like being able to talk about anything - it makes it feel like a pub or just a buncha guys and gals hangin around shooting the breeze.  Sure, theres lots of good RPG discussion, but all RPG all the time gets boring even for me.


Wow thats why I hang out here. Every where else I dont really feel like I can speak my mind, if I want too, and fuck that. Thats the main reason I dont hang out on the Palladium boards any more. The mod clic and the like mind think BS is to much for me. Especially now that I found a place where you can call a spade a spade.
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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2008, 11:53:38 pm »
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Its a fun place.  The thing that keeps me from being more regular here is its not as FUN.  [...] Sure, theres lots of good RPG discussion, but all RPG all the time gets boring even for me.
So, rpg.net is better than therpgsite because they talk about rpgs less?

Sounds awesome. Next we can have a politics forum with not much politics, a news site with not much news, and a pr0n site with not much pr0n. It's more fun that way!
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« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2008, 12:44:11 am »
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So, rpg.net is better than therpgsite because they talk about rpgs less?

Sounds awesome. Next we can have a politics forum with not much politics, a news site with not much news, and a pr0n site with not much pr0n. It's more fun that way!

The politics site will have the p0rn, the p0rn site will have the politics, and the news site will be full of politicals and p0rn.

Oh wait...it's already like that...
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« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2008, 04:58:44 am »
I say all threads about RPGnet be moved to the Pundit's forum.

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« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2008, 09:11:56 am »
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So, rpg.net is better than therpgsite because they talk about rpgs less?

Sounds awesome. Next we can have a politics forum with not much politics, a news site with not much news, and a pr0n site with not much pr0n. It's more fun that way!


No, check the thread/post counts on BP compared to here.  They talk about RPGs MORE actually, cause, you know, more people.  

But the thing is, I like being able to talk about random shit.  News, Media, movies, books.  You can do that HERE, but its not as good - fewer people mostly.  I like the wide divergence of opinion there, it makes discussing things more interesting.

But this is rehashing old ground.  rpg.net didn't service your needs, this place does.  More power congrats.  But the arguement that theres no RPG talk, or that its less important than Tang is patently false and ludicrous.
 

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« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2008, 09:16:39 am »
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The politics site will have the p0rn, the p0rn site will have the politics, and the news site will be full of politicals and p0rn.

Oh wait...it's already like that...


Cause this is the problem - when you get large groups of people tlaking about shit - no matter what kind of shit you are going to try to make them stay focused on - something will happen, and they will want to discuss it.  Politics, for example, is the worst kind of topic creep.  So, what do you do?  You either shut down any and all remotely political discussion, or you move it off to another part of the site.  Almost every high traffic forum I have see has an "off topic" section, and most of them grow pretty sizeable, caue while I may like talking about Gooseberry Pies on GooseberryPiesRock.org, or basketweaving on Basketweavingmofos.net, I also end up becoming friendly with many of the people there, if I'm a regular poster and not a social troglodyte.  So, when friends talk, they shoot the breeze and topics drift across many divergent subjects.  Its natural and it happens.

You can have that discussion clutter up your "Kick Ass Gooseberry Pie Recipies" section, or you "Picture of my current projects" section, or you can move it off somewhere else.  But people will always want to talk about random shit.
 

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« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2008, 09:22:38 am »
Ummm...I was just kidding...ya know...goofing on the news media...

I don't hang out, never really have, at RPGNet.  So I tend to have no opinion on it. I did read through a series of articles there where someone was designing a game - Rough Quests I think it was. But I lost interest at some point...
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« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2008, 09:36:09 am »
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Ummm...I was just kidding...ya know...goofing on the news media...

I don't hang out, never really have, at RPGNet.  So I tend to have no opinion on it. I did read through a series of articles there where someone was designing a game - Rough Quests I think it was. But I lost interest at some point...


I was using your post to solidify my point, not as an attack position.

Cause Kyle Aaron seems to think sites have to be about one thing and one thing only, and I haven't seen anything but the most draconianly modded sites do that.  Cause its stupid and unrealistic.
 

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« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2008, 09:45:51 am »
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The politics site will have the p0rn, the p0rn site will have the politics, and the news site will be full of politicals and p0rn.

Oh wait...it's already like that...



That might be true - but unlike other forum sites they hide it . I can browse THIS forum (rpgsite) and still see the off topic section when I'm on another computer or not logged in, same with the SJG forums and general chatter.

What are they hiding? and why do they feel the need to hide it?


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« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2008, 10:15:22 am »
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That might be true - but unlike other forum sites they hide it . I can browse THIS forum (rpgsite) and still see the off topic section when I'm on another computer or not logged in, same with the SJG forums and general chatter.

What are they hiding? and why do they feel the need to hide it?


- Ed C.

Because they had a long long string of unregistered trolls coming in.

As well, a lot of the discussion there can be not suitable for youngsters, so in order to stem any legal problems, they just made it that you had to be registered to read or post there, since you are technically supposed to be an adult to post there anyway.
 

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« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2008, 10:20:43 am »
Interesting ....thats one of the least 'adult' places I've ever seen or read.
For that matter, considering how much computers cost - only adults should be using them anyway.


....oh never mind....had a long-winded rant all set to go  that I'm not in the mood for any more...
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« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2008, 11:07:21 am »
Thank you for the kind words, Hackmastergeneral.

For my own part, I left RPG.Net for many reasons.  The cliquishness, for one, didn't bother me quite so much as the unwelcoming nature of the cliquishness, as I saw these little groups close up to even long-time members of the community -- like me.  The rules became too much to bear, not because they were in my mind draconian, which they weren't, but because they were applied with such fierce and dedicated ambiguity.  More than once did I appeal to a moderator to unlock a thread which had been shut down because one person's comments unintentioanlly skirted the rules, only to be told, in effect,  "No, because I don't wanna".  On a floor covered with eggshells, it's very hard to breakdance.

The RPG Site suits me better because I find its level of discourse more agreeable, more open and more responsible.  You CAN and DO get called out here, if you're being a prick.  Remember the end of Fritz Lang's M, where Peter Lorre's child murderer character is tried and convicted by a court of his fellow outcasts and criminals?  Not to say that we're all unsavory types,  which we most assuredly are not, but rather that it's our turf and we check it, no matter what it is we do on it.

Certainly The RPG Site's users exhibit some clearly-definable biases towards some games and play styles, which, not coincidentally, I favor as well; but few opinions and ideas are truly unwelcome here, even if they're sometimes met with skepticism or dislike.  You can still toot about Sorceror all you want -- other people will toot along with you, and the ones who don't want to will take their jab at you and then move on.  

As to how I came to be a mod...it's really just a case of a temporary convenience (my participation as judge in a contest run by Clash and Pundit) which was further extended for reasons of "meh, why not?"  I'm hardly ever aware that I have the damn status, but I'm sure that when the revolution comes, I'll be asked to go to  the front lines to sweep the streets of undesirables, wielding a mighty administrative force of blinding, shocking fury.

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« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2008, 05:29:29 pm »
This post here is, in a nutshell why I'll never post at RPG.net.  For the banned:

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While I don't disagree with the general sentiment expressed... yeah, reported, sorry.


You have the following:

1 - A handwringing busybody with too much time on their hands.
2 - A mod suckup
3 - The simpering "There but by the grace of God go I,"  with a dash of "you need to be taught a lesson, but good, AND I'LL SCREAM IT FROM THE MOUNTAINTOPS TO ANYONE WHO'LL LISTEN!" tone that permeates the entire place.

all in one, convenient, bite-sized sentence.