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Author Topic: OBI-WAN KENOBI (No spoilers until Monday, please)  (Read 3471 times)

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Re: OBI-WAN KENOBI (No spoilers until Monday, please)
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2022, 10:33:43 AM »
But the only selling point here (besides the pathetical, self-doubting Luke Skywalker... er, I mean Obi-Wan Kenobi... is this a pattern with Disney?) is the fact that Disney dares to have a hypercompetent, don't-need-no-man, (poorly-acted) black woman villain (does this mean Disney hates black people and women? Isn't the main villain of the Mandalorian black, too?  Disney = KKK confirmed!).  Bravo.

If I had to guess, she will wind up redeemed by the end of the series and possibly get her own spinoff.

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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2022, 10:58:19 AM »
The Inquisitors are so far all about as interesting as any of the background Jedi in the prequels. Rebels didn't really flesh them out much, and I don't expect too much here either.

We'll probably get some more back story on Third Sister. I think she was one of the younglings who escaped the Jedi Temple massacre on Coruscant.

It seems they have retconned the Inquisitors to be fallen jedi, instead of wannabee Sith. This would power them up a fair bit, as the Rebels version of the Inquisitors were bullies and mid-bosses at best, and Obi-wan is a Master Jedi capable of single-handedly defeating multiple Sith.
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Re: OBI-WAN KENOBI (No spoilers until Monday, please)
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2022, 02:45:39 PM »
The Inquisitors are so far all about as interesting as any of the background Jedi in the prequels. Rebels didn't really flesh them out much, and I don't expect too much here either.

We'll probably get some more back story on Third Sister. I think she was one of the younglings who escaped the Jedi Temple massacre on Coruscant.

It seems they have retconned the Inquisitors to be fallen jedi, instead of wannabee Sith. This would power them up a fair bit, as the Rebels version of the Inquisitors were bullies and mid-bosses at best, and Obi-wan is a Master Jedi capable of single-handedly defeating multiple Sith.
The Inquisitors are the same as they were in Rebels (i.e., former Jedi). Obi-Wan, OTOH, is out of practice and shaken with doubts & bitterness. He's the one that's changed (back) by the time of Rebels (which begins roughly 5 years later).

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Re: OBI-WAN KENOBI (No spoilers until Saturday, please)
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2022, 09:39:52 AM »
Episode 3 dropped this morning. They're now coming out on Wednesdays instead of Friday.

I haven't had a chance to watch it all the way through.

Shall we say spoilers on Saturday?

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Re: OBI-WAN KENOBI (No spoilers until Monday, please)
« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2022, 06:59:42 PM »
Was the Wednesday thing a change in plans or was it always going to be Wednesdays?
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Re: OBI-WAN KENOBI (No spoilers until Saturday, please)
« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2022, 07:41:01 PM »
I think it was a change in plans, I had read that it was going to be Fridays for the duration. That's why I put "No spoilers until Monday" in the title.

I honestly don't know for sure, though.

The third episode was not as good as the second, but better than the first. I'm not how I feel about it. I'll hold off on spoilers until Saturday.
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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2022, 09:50:05 PM »
I think it was a change in plans, I had read that it was going to be Fridays for the duration. That's why I put "No spoilers until Monday" in the title.

Yep, you sure did. I didn't think about that.

Wonder what brought on the change.

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« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2022, 11:02:24 PM »
I think it was a change in plans, I had read that it was going to be Fridays for the duration. That's why I put "No spoilers until Monday" in the title.

Yep, you sure did. I didn't think about that.

Wonder what brought on the change.

Rumor has it that Disney wanted to capitalize on the buzz from the launch and get the next episode out quickly while there was still a chance for it to boost subscriptions and press.  Too bad this episode was... inferior...

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Re: OBI-WAN KENOBI (No spoilers until Monday, please)
« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2022, 10:55:59 AM »
We are go for spoilers on Kenobi Episode 3.

If an episode drops on Wednesday, assume the spoiler ban lifts on Saturday. I'm not a mod, so you don't have to wait on me.

Sorry I didn't post that yesterday, I was kind of busy with boring real life stuff and didn't even think about it.

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Re: OBI-WAN KENOBI (No spoilers until Monday, please)
« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2022, 01:35:57 PM »
I was not expecting a direct confrontation between Obi-Wan and Vader. I was also not expecting Obi-Wan to be nerfed so completely.

He's been shown to be doing fairly demanding physical work, long shifts at the sandworm processing tent, riding his space camel, etc. And we saw him being decisively fast in the Star Wars cantina fight in A New Hope, and in Star Wars Rebels.

Obi-Wan Kenobi should not be standing there flatfooted as if to say "Jeepers, he's using the FORCE!"

Are they making Obi-Wan lame to try and make Vader look tough in comparison?

It is genuinely odd to see Obi-Wan Kenobi drawing his lightsaber, and it coming across as an admission of weakness.

And speaking of Vader, I know they're trying to recreate the Vader we saw in Rogue One, but I still don't like the way he moves and fights. He's slow and lumbering, as if his mechanical limbs don't work all that well. But there are plenty of Star Wars characters with cybernetic arms and legs who are every bit as agile as flesh and blood. Also, he doesn't move or fight anything like he does in the prequels.


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Re: OBI-WAN KENOBI (No spoilers until Monday, please)
« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2022, 08:20:00 PM »
I was not expecting a direct confrontation between Obi-Wan and Vader. I was also not expecting Obi-Wan to be nerfed so completely.

He's been shown to be doing fairly demanding physical work, long shifts at the sandworm processing tent, riding his space camel, etc. And we saw him being decisively fast in the Star Wars cantina fight in A New Hope, and in Star Wars Rebels.

Obi-Wan Kenobi should not be standing there flatfooted as if to say "Jeepers, he's using the FORCE!"

Are they making Obi-Wan lame to try and make Vader look tough in comparison?

It is genuinely odd to see Obi-Wan Kenobi drawing his lightsaber, and it coming across as an admission of weakness.

And speaking of Vader, I know they're trying to recreate the Vader we saw in Rogue One, but I still don't like the way he moves and fights. He's slow and lumbering, as if his mechanical limbs don't work all that well. But there are plenty of Star Wars characters with cybernetic arms and legs who are every bit as agile as flesh and blood. Also, he doesn't move or fight anything like he does in the prequels.
No, they are making Obi-Wan lame because you like him, and it's important for you to recognize that what you like is wrong and problematic, especially if it is a white male who shows competence (that's literally white supremacy).  So when Third Sister changes sides, defeats Vader, and saves Obi-Wan, you can understand how to destroy white patriarchy...

God, I just threw up in my mouth...

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Re: OBI-WAN KENOBI (No spoilers until Monday, please)
« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2022, 08:34:59 PM »
'Why does my abusive girlfriend keep hitting me!'

Just dump her already. She isn't going to change.

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« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2022, 12:53:39 AM »
I was not expecting a direct confrontation between Obi-Wan and Vader. I was also not expecting Obi-Wan to be nerfed so completely.

He's been shown to be doing fairly demanding physical work, long shifts at the sandworm processing tent, riding his space camel, etc. And we saw him being decisively fast in the Star Wars cantina fight in A New Hope, and in Star Wars Rebels.

Obi-Wan Kenobi should not be standing there flatfooted as if to say "Jeepers, he's using the FORCE!"

Are they making Obi-Wan lame to try and make Vader look tough in comparison?

It is genuinely odd to see Obi-Wan Kenobi drawing his lightsaber, and it coming across as an admission of weakness.

And speaking of Vader, I know they're trying to recreate the Vader we saw in Rogue One, but I still don't like the way he moves and fights. He's slow and lumbering, as if his mechanical limbs don't work all that well. But there are plenty of Star Wars characters with cybernetic arms and legs who are every bit as agile as flesh and blood. Also, he doesn't move or fight anything like he does in the prequels.
No, they are making Obi-Wan lame because you like him, and it's important for you to recognize that what you like is wrong and problematic, especially if it is a white male who shows competence (that's literally white supremacy).  So when Third Sister changes sides, defeats Vader, and saves Obi-Wan, you can understand how to destroy white patriarchy...

God, I just threw up in my mouth...

Yep. Sounds like I'm not missing anything good. Obi-Wan sounds more on the Kathleen Kenedy side of Star Wars. Deconstructionist and disdainful of the source material.
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Re: OBI-WAN KENOBI (No spoilers until Monday, please)
« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2022, 10:46:27 AM »
Obi-Wan sounds more on the Kathleen Kenedy side of Star Wars. Deconstructionist and disdainful of the source material.

Its all the Kathleen Kennedys side. They throw enough memberberries your way to make you forget.

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Re: OBI-WAN KENOBI (No spoilers until Monday, please)
« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2022, 05:23:54 PM »
Episode 4 dropped today. More of the same.

Definitely the Kathleen Kennedy side of the franchise.