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Author Topic: [News] Augusto Pinochet, dead at 91  (Read 966 times)

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[News] Augusto Pinochet, dead at 91
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2006, 06:39:03 AM »
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That's pretty insulting to Jabba the Hutt.
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[News] Augusto Pinochet, dead at 91
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2007, 10:06:51 AM »
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Originally Posted by Dominus Nox
And let's add in an honorary "FUCK YOU!" to England for not letting the torturing scumbag be extradited to face criminal charges for his reign of torture and murder because he was old and not feeling well." [QUOTE/]



WRONG! You are writing shite! The governent did sanction legal measures to extradite the scumbag!


October 8, 1999 Published at 13:01 GMT 14:01 UK


UK

Way cleared for Pinochet extradition

Anti-Pinochet demonstrators welcomed the ruling

Chile's former military leader, General Augusto Pinochet, can be extradited to Spain to stand trial for torture and human rights charges, a UK court has ruled.
 
London's Bow Street Magistrates Court committed Gen Pinochet on the 35 charges he is accused of, which include one of conspiracy to torture and 34 of torture.


 
The BBC's Jane Peel: "The final decision will be made by the Home Secretary"
The former dictator's lawyers now have 15 days to appeal against the ruling.

The general responded to the ruling saying it was politically motivated.


"It has long been clear that my extradition is politically motivated and being pursued clearly for political reasons," said a statement read to the court by his barrister, Clive Nicholls QC.


 
 
"Spain has not produced a single piece of evidence which shows that I am guilty. Not only that, I believe that Spain have not properly investigated any of these crimes and Spain does not even have jurisdiction to try me," said the statement.

The general, who is 83, had been excused from attending Friday's hearing on the grounds of ill health.

The statement continued: "It acts in violation of the sovereignty of Chile.

"The events in Chile have nothing whatsoever to do with Spain.''

Long legal battle


 
The BBC's Joshua Rozenburg: "This isn't the end of the road"
In his ruling, Deputy Chief Stipendiary Magistrate Ronald Bartle told the court he was satisfied that "all the conditions are in place which oblige me under the terms of the Extradition Act 1989 to commit Senator Pinochet to await the decision of the Secretary of State".

The decision is unlikely to have any immediate impact on the year-long legal battle.

The general will remain under house arrest near London while his lawyers consider an appeal to the High Court.


 
Pinochet accused of having blood on his hands
However, he may abandon his case and ask Home Secretary Jack Straw to free him on the grounds of ill health.

It will still be down to Mr Straw, who earlier ruled that the case could go forward in the courts, to make the final decision on Gen Pinochet's fate.

The decision has been welcomed by human rights groups.

Geoffrey Bindman, a lawyer for Amnesty International, said: "The wider effect of the torture convention and the knowledge which should now be spread among all torturers and all is that there is no hiding place.

"If they go to any country that has signed the torture convention they will be prosecuted and extradited as necessary."


 
Lord Lamont: "It would be a tragedy if Pinochet were to die in the UK"
Lord Lamont, who spoke at a rally in defence of Gen Pinochet at this week's Conservative Party conference, warned that the case would continue to go on for a "long time yet".

He said he was not surprised by the court's decision but detaining the general in the UK could seriously damage the country's relationship with Chile and South America.

Lord Lamont said: "I fear for Britain's relationship with Chile will be badly damaged, particularly if General Pinochet dies here."



 
Pinochet may appeal on health grounds
More than 3,000 people died or disappeared under Gen Pinochet's rule. Tens of thousands more fled rather than live under a military regime.

The ruling is the latest crucial stage in a long legal battle sparked by the general's arrest while undergoing medical treatment in London in October last year.

His detention was upheld by Britain's highest court, the House of Lords, in March, although it reduced the charges against him to those dated after December 1988, when Britain incorporated an international torture convention into law.

Senor Garzon then added more post-1988 charges. But Gen Pinochet's lawyers argued that all but two of these are invalid because they did not appear in the original charges against him at the time of his arrest.

The defence team also argued that some of the charges do not meet the international definition for torture, that Spain does not have jurisdiction, and that the general cannot be held personally responsible for the alleged crimes.

But the prosecution said the general could be extradited even on the basis of just one torture charge
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« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2007, 06:41:39 AM »
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Quote from: Dominus Nox
And let's add in an honorary "FUCK YOU!" to England for not letting the torturing scumbag be extradited to face criminal charges for his reign of torture and murder because he was old and not feeling well."






No one in England, would FUCK YOU, Donkey Pox.I doubt that you've been FUCKED since you were born, such is your redneckedness!:D  
Not that I'm excusing the despicable actions of Pinochet or the British government of Margaret Thatcher, but how many torturing scumbag dictators, or repressive regimes, have the past governments of the the good old US of A befriended (or supported) in its history? Can you tell the difference between the governing body of a country and all English people? Bigotry seems to be your thing, Dumbass Sux. You should really get an education in your country's history, or are you still living in ignorance in a mud hut and shitting on your lawn?.:p
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[News] Augusto Pinochet, dead at 91
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2007, 06:53:33 AM »
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Originally Posted by Dominus Nox
And let's add in an honorary "FUCK YOU!" to England for not letting the torturing scumbag be extradited to face criminal charges for his reign of torture and murder because he was old and not feeling well."





 
 

Thursday, October 22, 1998 Published at 06:51 GMT 07:51 UK


UK

Pinochet - Thatcher's ally

Baroness Thatcher's letter: Demand for General Pinochet's release

Baroness Thatcher's controversial call for the release of General Augusto Pinochet underlines a long-term relationship that has always been more than just flowers and chocolates.

 
Damien Grammaticus: "Letter will not influence General Pinochet's situation"
Even before the former Chilean dictator offered his country's tacit support to the UK during the 1982 Falklands War, Margaret Thatcher had long been an admirer of his radical free market economic policies.

General Pinochet was detained in London on 17 October following a request for his arrest and extradition by two Spanish judges investigating some of the 4,000-plus political murders believed to have been committed during his 1973-1990 rule.


 
General Pinochet: Free market pioneer
Baroness Thatcher demanded his immediate release in a letter to the Times newspaper on Thursday.

In her letter, Baroness Thatcher wrote: "By his actions the [Falklands] war was shortened and many British lives were saved."

It is understood that while Chile did not express open support for the UK during the conflict, it did provide material assistance, most notably in allowing the SAS to set up a base on Chilean soil.


 
Baroness Thatcher: General Pinochet made a great impact
But it is General Pinochet's adoption of the ideas expressed by the American economist Milton Friedman that is believed to have had the greatest impact on Baroness Thatcher.

The general seized power in 1973 from the Marxist government of Salvador Allende and immediately overturned its state controls in favour of a programme of sweeping privatisations in accordance with Friedman's free market thinking.

It won Baroness Thatcher's admiration and, to some extent emulation in the reforms she brought in as prime minister.

Despite this, she has always been acutely aware of General Pinochet's extremely poor human rights record - alluding in her letter to abuses "on both sides of the political divide" - and kept her distance while in office.


 
The Thatchers entertained General Pinochet at their home
Following her resignation, however, she allowed more open social contact and even planned to attend a private function with the former dictator during her speaking tour of South America in 1994. She was forced to cancel through illness.

General Pinochet, a confirmed anglophile who once described the UK as "the ideal place to live", reciprocated with equal admiration for Baroness Thatcher.

He reportedly made a habit of sending chocolates and flowers to her during his twice-yearly visits to London and took tea with her whenever possible.

Just two weeks before his arrest, General Pinochet was entertained by the Thatchers at their Chester Square address in London.


 
The Thatchers survey war graves in the Falklands
It was perhaps the final straw that Baroness Thatcher's mentor and ally has been detained at a time when Argentina's President Carlos Menem will be visiting the UK to "build bridges" 16 years after the two countries went to war over the Falkland islands.

"It would be disgraceful to preach reconciliation with one, while maintaining under arrest someone who, during that same conflict, did so much to save British lives," she wrote.

Her expression of loyalty is unlikely to have any impact on the situation, which the government insists will be judged on its legal merits.

Maggie Thatcher the milk snatcher is the one who should get your ire, Donkey Pox!
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« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2007, 06:04:29 AM »
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Thursday, October 22, 1998 Published at 06:51 GMT 07:51 UK


UK

Pinochet - Thatcher's ally

Baroness Thatcher's letter: Demand for General Pinochet's release

Baroness Thatcher's controversial call for the release of General Augusto Pinochet underlines a long-term relationship that has always been more than just flowers and chocolates.

 
Damien Grammaticus: "Letter will not influence General Pinochet's situation"
Even before the former Chilean dictator offered his country's tacit support to the UK during the 1982 Falklands War, Margaret Thatcher had long been an admirer of his radical free market economic policies.

General Pinochet was detained in London on 17 October following a request for his arrest and extradition by two Spanish judges investigating some of the 4,000-plus political murders believed to have been committed during his 1973-1990 rule.


 
General Pinochet: Free market pioneer
Baroness Thatcher demanded his immediate release in a letter to the Times newspaper on Thursday.

In her letter, Baroness Thatcher wrote: "By his actions the [Falklands] war was shortened and many British lives were saved."

It is understood that while Chile did not express open support for the UK during the conflict, it did provide material assistance, most notably in allowing the SAS to set up a base on Chilean soil.


 
Baroness Thatcher: General Pinochet made a great impact
But it is General Pinochet's adoption of the ideas expressed by the American economist Milton Friedman that is believed to have had the greatest impact on Baroness Thatcher.

The general seized power in 1973 from the Marxist government of Salvador Allende and immediately overturned its state controls in favour of a programme of sweeping privatisations in accordance with Friedman's free market thinking.

It won Baroness Thatcher's admiration and, to some extent emulation in the reforms she brought in as prime minister.

Despite this, she has always been acutely aware of General Pinochet's extremely poor human rights record - alluding in her letter to abuses "on both sides of the political divide" - and kept her distance while in office.


 
The Thatchers entertained General Pinochet at their home
Following her resignation, however, she allowed more open social contact and even planned to attend a private function with the former dictator during her speaking tour of South America in 1994. She was forced to cancel through illness.

General Pinochet, a confirmed anglophile who once described the UK as "the ideal place to live", reciprocated with equal admiration for Baroness Thatcher.

He reportedly made a habit of sending chocolates and flowers to her during his twice-yearly visits to London and took tea with her whenever possible.

Just two weeks before his arrest, General Pinochet was entertained by the Thatchers at their Chester Square address in London.


 
The Thatchers survey war graves in the Falklands
It was perhaps the final straw that Baroness Thatcher's mentor and ally has been detained at a time when Argentina's President Carlos Menem will be visiting the UK to "build bridges" 16 years after the two countries went to war over the Falkland islands.

"It would be disgraceful to preach reconciliation with one, while maintaining under arrest someone who, during that same conflict, did so much to save British lives," she wrote.

Her expression of loyalty is unlikely to have any impact on the situation, which the government insists will be judged on its legal merits.

Maggie Thatcher the milk snatcher is the one who should get your ire, Donkey Pox!


Dominus Nox hated maggie thatcher for being a female ronald reagan, who was a total scrotum.

Then again at least maggie never betrayed her country like reagan did....
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Wrong again.
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2007, 08:35:31 AM »
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Then again at least maggie never betrayed her country like reagan did....



WRONG again Donkey.She sold out the country's industries while singing merrily about being patriotically British. On this matter I will grant your ignorance some slack, as you aren't British (I assume) and you seem to be a bit of a xenophobe.;)
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« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2007, 06:15:31 PM »
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WRONG again Donkey.She sold out the country's industries while singing merrily about being patriotically British. On this matter I will grant your ignorance some slack, as you aren't British (I assume) and you seem to be a bit of a xenophobe.;)


Let's dissect this stupid statement of yours for a moment's amusement.


I say that I dislike thatcher LESS than I dislike reagan, so I'm a xenophobe?
I guess that's english logic there for you, then again we must remember that the might british intellect is the same mental superpower that let hitler become almost unstoppable instead of standing  up to him early on when even england could have stopped him cold.

(And yes, I am bashing the britts. I mean, fuck, if you're constantly going to accuse me of being xenophobic I might as well act like it. :D )
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« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2007, 06:44:50 PM »
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Let's dissect this stupid statement of yours for a moment's amusement.It will be your amusement because I'm a rednecked ignoramus, but hey! I need the attention!


Being called stupid by a toothless sheep like you is so harmless it tickles.
You are a xenophobe because you refuse to see the Islamic world as the complex and differing cultures that it is, in favour of some frightened vision of suicide bombers in every mosque.
I can't be bothered to reply to your mangling of Neville Chamberlain's motivation as you would not understand the complexity of human politics at that time.Some research on your part wouldn't go amiss. It might even make your posts less of an amusing diversion and more about serious matters worthy of comment.:p
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So atheists have been abused, treated badly by clergy or they're stupid.They're just being trendy because they can't understand The God Delusion because they don't have the education, plus they're just pretending to be atheists anyway. Pundit you're the one with a problem, terminal stupidity.