Quote from: Spike;267683Regarding Nimoy: I read an interview with him last month where he revealed that he'd been in touch with the kid playing Spock, that in fact that the new spock had contacted him to tap his brain on 'playing Spock'.

The guy that's playing Spock is Sylar in Heroes- if you've missed it Sylar (until the last eppy) gained powers by examining the brains of others with powers, essentially stealing their abilities and also killing 'em in the process.

The bolded part made me LOL.

I too am not keen on the "badass teen" shtick. I almost expected the robot or whatever to tell teen kirk "come with me if you want to live" :rolleyes:

Looks pretty stupid to me.  They've dug up the corpse and have started having sex with it again.  The results aren't pretty.

Look!  They have yellow, red, and blue shirts!  Uhura has a mini-skirt!  The kid says he's James T Kirk with the same intensity as Jake Lloyd!  The Enterprise is framed by scafolding kinda exactly like in Star Trek: The Motion Picture!  Kirk and Spock are rebels meeting for the first time, they're so conflicting with each other!  

Blech.  This is the most formulamatic thing I've ever seen.  And I've seen Mega Man and Advance Wars games.

Here's the problem I have with Badass Teen Kirk.  He's clearly a daredevil, a hotshot, a dick who's willing to almost get himself killed for a thrill.  That's not the Kirk who belongs at the con of the Enterprise, some dick who's going to get his crew killed on a daredevil stunt.  That's the Kirk we meet at the beginning of Star Trek 4: Thar Be Whales! (A Tale of Old San Francisco), a grouchy old duff who's trying to get himself killed.

Okay, this is a Kirk-reborn, a new twist on a classic character.  Only it's the same tired preamble we're greeted with for every fucking classic character when they want to show what his childhood was like.  Anyone remember the opening scene from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade?  Same fucking setup.  Right, so let me guess.  Kirk is a daredevil dick who learns restraint and the dignity of command as a result of this new, crucial, first adventure.  Right, right.  Where have I seen that story before?

G'ah.

Anyway, at least it still looks cool.  Though, damn it, Gary Sinise should have been a fucking shoe-in for Bones.  And Simon Pigott as Scotty?  Er...okay.  I'll be waiting the month or so extra for it to come out on DVD and rent it on $2-Tuesday.

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Actually the scene at the beginning of Indiana Jones was over 30 years ago, and it wasn't so much a re-imagening as it was a sequel- and it sucked sucked sucked. Anyway, I think the idea here is that Earth is all safe and shit and people have become all sheep like, so much so that they need to harvest adrenaline junkies like Kirk. It might be a shit idea, but there's a certain kind of logic to it. Also, the Kirk in charge of the enterprise is at least 10-15 years older than the kid who, ditches the car, so there's quite a bit of room for maturation there.
You might well be right however. It could suck, but one way or anther, it's dangerous to read too much into a trailer.
I like to give these things a chance. Jackson's King Kong Nearly killed that in me, but the Batman Movies show that it can be done.

I just hope JJ remembers that Kirk himself said he was always lucky....not that he was some kind of ubertacticalmastermind....

Regards,
David R

The series is fairly inconstant in the way in portrays Kirk- for instance, he does come off as some sort of tactical genius in "Balance of Terror." I don't think you can keep to ST cannon without fcuking over ST cannon, really.

Okay how about fucking green skinned alien women. I mean somethings are sacred right ? (besides indulging in the occasional chocolate fantasy....okay that's In Living Color, canon)

Regards,
David R

Sacred is too mild a word for how I feel about green skinned women, David.

Quote from: David R;268965I just hope JJ remembers that Kirk himself said he was always lucky....not that he was some kind of ubertacticalmastermind....

And when he couldn't be lucky, he cheated.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;268982And when he couldn't be lucky, he cheated.

Speaking of that - a press release and interview with someone who has already seen the scenes that Abrams showed to the press said that the movie DOES refer to Kirk rigging the Kobayashi Maru test ...and becauyse of that he's thought of as a troublemaker.

Oh...and based on what I've seen so far I'm more than willing to give the movie a fair shake. Right now with what little I've seen Abrams and his writers seem to have gotten several things "right" or even VERY right so far .


- Ed C.

Quote from: Koltar;269008Speaking of that - a press release and interview with someone who has already seen the scenes that Abrams showed to the press said that the movie DOES refer to Kirk rigging the Kobayashi Maru test ...and becauyse of that he's thought of as a troublemaker.

Now, see?  What fucking genius in his right mind puts a "troublemaker" in the command seat of battle-ready spaceship with a crew of 400?  G'ah!

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Quote from: Ian Absentia;269032Now, see?  What fucking genius in his right mind puts a "troublemaker" in the command seat of battle-ready spaceship with a crew of 400?  G'ah!

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I think his last name was "Roddenberry".

Quote from: Ian Absentia;266829I'm sick to death of opening scenes in movies that explain how an established character got that way by showing how badass the character was as a kid.  So, Kirk was badass even before he went to Star Fleet Academy.  Ho-hum.  You know, I liked the character better when I just met him for the first time, in mid-career, and he's totally badass.  I don't need to know that he was a badass teenager in a Corvette to be convinced or understand why he's so badass.  Bleah.

Though I agree with you on this point, I am optimistic. We've been having some very very good 'let's make it anew again' experiences these days, like the Batman and 007 movies (or even the new Hulk), so I feel there can be some trend. I will watch it and time will tell.

By the way, Quantum of Solace rocks on toast. I like it even better than Casino Royale, though I'm starting to think about them as just one movie splitted in half for commercial purposes.

Quote from: Ian Absentia;269032Now, see?  What fucking genius in his right mind puts a "troublemaker" in the command seat of battle-ready spaceship with a crew of 400?

Mate, the military is famous for its love of wild mavericks who disobey orders and go against regular procedure while endangering the lives of others, everyone knows that!

Didn't you see that documentary Top Gun?

Ian has the need, the need for speed.


Furthermore, I am sorry to report that asking question that start with "Who in his right mind-" in regards to Star Trek is veering off towards a dark place into which you should not venture.