[ATTACH=CONFIG]1826[/ATTACH]

I do like cheesy bad postapocalptic adventure films of th e '80s.

And the poor man's Indiana Joneses...

[ATTACH=CONFIG]1827[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]1828[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]1829[/ATTACH]

Doc Savage had some fun moments.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;1001619He had an antigravity belt, yes, which made him dance lightly on his feet.  Not fly.

He also did not dress in greasy, filthy leather, nor was he covered with pustles, buboes, chancres, and other assorted globs of pus.

Yeah, I'm not a dune fan but what was with turning baron Vladimir harkonnen into a high priest of Nurgle?

AISI, Dune's problem was that it was determined to be an absolutely epic movie. The production firm wasn't trying to make a good movie, they were determined dune would be an epic movie.

When the director or producer decides a movie must be an epic movie it often collapses under it's own grandiosity. When they made star wars they weren't out to make an epic movie, just the best movie they could. Later star wars movies suffered from trying to be epic movies. Star trek the motion picture was determined to be an epic movie. I like it, but admit it had issues.

Likewise since dune was an epic novel series they tried to force it to be an epic movie. Not just the best movie they could.

I liked star trek the motion picture.

Quote from: Schwartzwald;1001705I liked star trek the motion picture.

I was taken to see that in its original theatrical release as a young child. The only thing I can remember is being told off by an usher for playing in the aisle because the movie was so boring.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;1001619He had an antigravity belt, yes, which made him dance lightly on his feet.  Not fly.

He also did not dress in greasy, filthy leather, nor was he covered with pustles, buboes, chancres, and other assorted globs of pus.

I think the Baron is one of the best things in the movie, so grotesque and over-the-top. I love the few Lynchian touches to the film, like the shaved antidote cat, look of the Bene Gesserit, etc.

I watched Dune so many times I came to understand it but I don't think I understood everything upon first viewing.

I read the book years later, I was surprised to find most of the goofy melodramatic dialogue I love from the film there line for line.

Quote from: Spike;1001495That aside I'm not sure it qualifies as a movie that 'everyone hates'. Its... divisive but has many, many fans.

It was a huge flop when released. It now has a cult following but lots of fans of the books hate it.

Quote from: Schwartzwald;1001705I liked star trek the motion picture.

I liked it too. Honestly, it was one of the Star Trek original movie franchise that felt the most "Trek" for me, at least old series though some of the sequels made for better (for lack of a more accurate term) big screen movies. Reading the novelization years later was an eye opener though as I missed some of the implication being so young when I viewed it

Quote from: Voros;1001788It was a huge flop when released. It now has a cult following but lots of fans of the books hate it.

Conversely, I like the movie better than the book.

Quote from: Nexus;1001810I liked it too. Honestly, it was one of the Star Trek original movie franchise that felt the most "Trek" for me, at least old series though some of the sequels made for better (for lack of a more accurate term) big screen movies. Reading the novelization years later was an eye opener though as I missed some of the implication being so young when I viewed it

ST: TMP was the only Star Trek movie that was like a long episode of discovery and exploration. Even though Wrath of Khan is much better and more entertaining, it has little to do with Star Trek's traditional themes. And every other Star Trek movie they've made is pretty much Star Trek in name only as far as I can tell.

Quote from: Dumarest;1001816Conversely, I like the movie better than the book.

I absolutely love the ending of the movie and was disapointed that the book didn't end that way.

Quote from: Voros;1001955I absolutely love the ending of the movie and was disapointed that the book didn't end that way.

Yeah, I saw the movie way before I tried reading the book...probably colors my opinion. But I thought the movie had a cool look and feel and ambience all its own. Like those blocky personal force fields and cool flying craft. For me the book bogged down a lot in exposition and really I never saw a reason to care about the Fremen or Paul and thought the "bad guys" were more interesting. It's a pretty neat setting but the messianic stuff kinda turns me off.

Its supposed to. Herbert was among other things critiquing the great man of history theory.

Quote from: Dumarest;1001820ST: TMP was the only Star Trek movie that was like a long episode of discovery and exploration. Even though Wrath of Khan is much better and more entertaining, it has little to do with Star Trek's traditional themes. And every other Star Trek movie they've made is pretty much Star Trek in name only as far as I can tell.

I have to agree completely here. Sttmp had a sense of "awe and wonder", to quote the original outer limits, that many movies lack and replace with "action scenes". The v'ger was of an awesome scale, the often criticized entry into the cloud and the v'ger flyover gave a sense of awe and scale to it, how almost invisibly small enterprise was compared to it. The idea that it was absolutely gigantic in scale and power.

I still like it. I think some improvements were made in the director's cut but at the same time some good things were cut.