Quote from: Dominus NoxMost acts of klan violence are provoked by outsiders trying to force their ways on the lives of the members.

Having known actual Klansmen, I know with 100% certainty that you, sir, are full of Shiite. Klansmen hate niggers. There really isn't any reason to it. Ask one and they'll spout off some nonsense and promptly change the subject to something else. Some of the Klan violence was based more on fear of outsiders if you go back far enough... but the last 60 or so years? Nah. It's just raw, pure hatred and ignorance. In many ways, it's just like the Islamic Fascists.

Quote from: ZalmoxisHaving known actual Klansmen, I know with 100% certainty that you, sir, are full of Shiite. Klansmen hate niggers. There really isn't any reason to it. Ask one and they'll spout off some nonsense and promptly change the subject to something else. Some of the Klan violence was based more on fear of outsiders if you go back far enough... but the last 60 or so years? Nah. It's just raw, pure hatred and ignorance. In many ways, it's just like the Islamic Fascists.

QUICK! Name a single KKK suicide bomber!

Klan members lack the courage to do suicide bombings. They'd rather bomb from a safe distance.

Quote from: Dominus NoxQUICK! Name a single KKK suicide bomber!

I can find you a photo of some strange fruit if you want. Plenty bigots posing around that one likesay.

Here you go nox the people you respect so much.

Quote from: Dominus NoxQUICK! Name a single KKK suicide bomber!

So the KKK murderers are ok people because they didn't commit suicide at the same time?

ah. Well, that surely makes sense in bizarro Nox-Land

Suicide bomber




Homicide bomber

Quote from: Dominus NoxQUICK! Name a single KKK suicide bomber!

No matter how dumb the Klan are, even they are smart enough not to kill themselves while killing others. I mean, that's lunacy!

Suicide bombing isn't the worst crime evar. To say so is to invite ridicule at ones  own expense. At most, the action is tied with killing non-combatants in any form for unjust reasons, at that is something the Klan has a long, long history of doing. To say otherwise is to be blindly ignorant of the facts and let some crime other then the goose-steppers you fear so much run rampant under your nose until you finally notice that.

I mean, we can get into the ethics of uneven wars and suicide bombers later, if you want, but it's fucking moot. The Klan is an organization of bigots designed to support bigotry. If you find that acceptible, then you're a racist and a prick. Being silent about your racism isn't any worse then being noisy, and at least they 'hypocrits' don't keep broadcasting their retarded, ill-formed malice in my direction, so I guess I prefer those.

Which means I guess I'd be happier if you shut up about it, Nox.

I haven't read the replies - almost certainly for good reason - but you know something?

It's a shame Nox is such a goddamn knuckle dragger, because in all honesty, I'd be a little wigged out if there was a chunk of my country's population proudly declaring "I want my country's penal system to include maiming, whippings, and death by live burial for things the civilized world doesn't consider crimes - because a desert hermit of the Middle Ages said his invisible friend told him it should!" The genuine "there are forces within this group that will behead you for not believing in their book" fear that should be in place here is drowned out by the clear and common knowledge that those brown folk just make Nox so darn angry!

For the record, I'm just as concerned when the American Christian right declares they want abortion made a capital crime, or homosexuality declared a mental illness requiring court-ordered chemical personality alteration. Neither the persistent hallucinations of the indocrinated nor the poorly translated and intentionally rewritten scribblings of assorted desert scribes that predate the steam engine have any place making decisions for my life, nor the lives of others. Personally, I don't think anybody with such an anti-human base for their world view as the Big Three Abrahamic religions (I mean real genuine "We don't need to look after the Earth, the Rapture is at hand" type belief, not "We go to church on Sunday and don't swear much type believers) should really be raising the next generation of humans, but there's always such a stink raised when you talk about the idea that maybe unrestrained and unchecked procreation is against our best interests at this point.

I mean, yeah, Nox appears unable to get his greasy fingers onto that disturbingly stained keyboard without taking a giant text-based shit in everybody's lap, and clearly only brought this up to point a grimy nail at it and scream "SEE?! FUCKING TOWELHEADS HATE US DECENT WHITE PEOPLE!", but anyone dismissing the actual ramifications of living under sharia law is either exceedingly boring, already a Muslim, or are just leaping to the attack.

I don't dismiss the ramifications of living under Sharia law, I dismiss the possibility. It would take us losing the third world war for the American government system to be replaced with that.

But if it does happen, I'm moving to Uruguay.

Quote from: James McMurrayI don't dismiss the ramifications of living under Sharia law, I dismiss the possibility. It would take us losing the third world war for the American government system to be replaced with that.

But if it does happen, I'm moving to Uruguay.

Oh, sure. It's astoundingly unlikely...but to make the call for an Islamic nation is to demand civil rights and human freedom submit to superstition and willful ignorance. Similarly for a Christian nation, a Buddhist nation, and a Neo-Pagan patchouli-stinking crystal-rubber nation, lest someone think I'm painting with too narrow a brush. It should be of concern to anyone who values making their own choices that -anyone- wants to drag us kicking and screaming back into the dark ages to worship at the blood-soaked altar of their ancestor's ignorance, and I don't think that just because it's a belief it should be ignored. I should think if I demanded the repeal of women's suffrage and the civil rights movement because the Thrice-Headed Simian of Morocco told me that all political progress since 1910 is unacceptable, I would be thought of as backwards, uncivilized, and more than a little crazy - and rightly so. I'm just pointing out that objectively, there's not much of a difference.

As I pointed out it's a minority that want Sharia law. I find this quite heartening.

Quote from: Garry GAs I pointed out it's a minority that want Sharia law. I find this quite heartening.

For what its worth, I would point out that a minority wanted American independence from England too. Or that a minority (and a pretty small one when you consider number of voters vs. total number of citizens) voted for Bush the first time out.

It dosn't always take a majority to make a difference.

This article made me think of Nox, particularly this quote:

Quote"It's come to the point where the Catholic faith has no defence and it is something to be laughed at, to be made a joke of. The Christian doctrine is exploited but everyone is very careful to be respectful of Islam."

You see?  It's been a few centuries since Christians have been willing to off somone for something as simple as blasphemy.  Start getting soft and nobody takes a relegion seriously anymore.

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