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Joey2k:

--- Quote from: Sosthenes ---Apart from pure pragamatic reasons, invading a country makes you kinda responsible for it. Just blasting away the baddies and then leaving might be considered impolite. ;)
So chocolate and nylon pantyhose for everyone!
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I don't know. We've shown that we're very good at blowing shit up, but we absolutely suck at nation-building.  In the future, if some petty dictator or theocratic regime gets uppity and starts threatening the neighbors or committing gross human rights violations, maybe we'd be better off sending the tanks and planes to remove them and their ability to threaten others, then get the heck out of dodge with a stern "don't do it again or we'll be back".

Sosthenes:

--- Quote from: Technomancer ---I don't know. We've shown that we're very good at blowing shit up, but we absolutely suck at nation-building.  In the future, if some petty dictator or theocratic regime gets uppity and starts threatening the neighbors or committing gross human rights violations, maybe we'd be better off sending the tanks and planes to remove them and their ability to threaten others, then get the heck out of dodge with a stern "don't do it again or we'll be back".
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And you'd probably have to be back pretty soon. If it would be as simple as that, some trained snipers would be all you needed.

Everybody sucks at nation building. Yes, it would probably be better if some other states would pitch in. While I don't agree with the way things were handled by the US, I generally agree that we just can't let things run their way. Post-modernist moral ambivalence won't get this worl much further, borders aren't that significant anymore.

But it would be pretty hard to establish some ground rules for civilized countries, as long as Russia and China are sitting at the table laying them out...

beejazz:
Thing about millitary action to prevent terrorist action (or what have you) is that you have to be really really careful about what you do. You also have to understand why people do this shit (mostly, people kill because they hate... they hate you for some specific reasons, not all of which are ideological). You also must realize that just killing the people in power will do nothing but to create a power vacuum. Which is bad. Very very bad.

hgjs:

--- Quote ---The Taliban gunmen who murdered two teachers in eastern Afghanistan early Saturday were only following their rules: Teachers receive a warning, then a beating, and if they continue to teach must be killed.
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That sounds fair.  They gave them every chance to stop.

James J Skach:
I hope (and if I believed in God, I'd pray) that you are kidding. Please be kidding.

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