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Marcia Lucas, Howard Kazanjian rip on Star Wars sequels.

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jhkim:

--- Quote from: Reckall on October 02, 2021, 07:22:33 AM ---
--- Quote from: jhkim on September 25, 2021, 03:11:05 PM ---Yeah, if only Marcia Lucas or Howard Kazanjian were producing, then the sequels could have been awesome like No Easy Way, A Good Son, The Amati Girls, or Extreme Days.

I didn't like the sequel films either, but I don't think these two are in any way authorities in good movies.
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Marcia Lucas is an editor, not a writer or moviemaker. And she happens to have edited all three original Star Wars movies, American Graffiti, Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore and Taxi Driver. Not a bad resume I gather.
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And if she had a limited comment on the film editing, I'd look more at her film editing cred.

But if she's commenting on the writing and production in general - then I think it's reasonable to look at her work as a producer. Marcia Lucas did produce movies - she produced the 1996 feature film "No Easy Way" and the 1998 short "A Good Son", which I referenced. 

As for her editor credits, she was a professional editor - but the only film where she was solo editor was on Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore. She was part of the film editing team on the Star Wars films, and co-editor with veteran editor Verna Fields on American Graffiti. (Fields was the sole editor on over a dozen films including Jaws, for which she won an Oscar.) Taxi Driver had primary Film Editing by Tom Rolf and Melvin Shapiro, while Lucas is credited later in the Editorial Department with three others.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0524235/

Eirikrautha:

--- Quote from: jhkim on October 04, 2021, 03:56:54 PM ---
--- Quote from: Reckall on October 02, 2021, 07:22:33 AM ---
--- Quote from: jhkim on September 25, 2021, 03:11:05 PM ---Yeah, if only Marcia Lucas or Howard Kazanjian were producing, then the sequels could have been awesome like No Easy Way, A Good Son, The Amati Girls, or Extreme Days.

I didn't like the sequel films either, but I don't think these two are in any way authorities in good movies.
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Marcia Lucas is an editor, not a writer or moviemaker. And she happens to have edited all three original Star Wars movies, American Graffiti, Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore and Taxi Driver. Not a bad resume I gather.
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And if she had a limited comment on the film editing, I'd look more at her film editing cred.

But if she's commenting on the writing and production in general - then I think it's reasonable to look at her work as a producer. Marcia Lucas did produce movies - she produced the 1996 feature film "No Easy Way" and the 1998 short "A Good Son", which I referenced. 

As for her editor credits, she was a professional editor - but the only film where she was solo editor was on Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore. She was part of the film editing team on the Star Wars films, and co-editor with veteran editor Verna Fields on American Graffiti. (Fields was the sole editor on over a dozen films including Jaws, for which she won an Oscar.) Taxi Driver had primary Film Editing by Tom Rolf and Melvin Shapiro, while Lucas is credited later in the Editorial Department with three others.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0524235/

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All of which means she knows a shitload more about movie making than you do.

jhkim:

--- Quote from: Eirikrautha on October 04, 2021, 08:38:02 PM ---All of which means she knows a shitload more about movie making than you do.
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Possibly. But if successful film credits are the metric, then other film-makers know even more about film than she does - including figures like Rian Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy. Or even Verna Fields.

I think for artistic fields, arguing from authority is weak in the first place

And if one is going to argue from authority, then I'd pick someone who seems like more of an authority in their field.

Spinachcat:
"Everything woke turns to shit."

Ratman_tf:

--- Quote from: jhkim on October 05, 2021, 02:49:43 AM ---
--- Quote from: Eirikrautha on October 04, 2021, 08:38:02 PM ---All of which means she knows a shitload more about movie making than you do.
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Possibly. But if successful film credits are the metric,

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As a rebuttal to this metric, I put forth Michael Bay.

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