Ah yes, Restraining Orders - also known as "Exhibit A".

Such a waste.

Quote from: GameDaddy;232246Amongst the Xbox crowd, they are pretty evenly split on whether he was justified.

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Justified? Much as I can understand the feelings of male jealousy, that is crazy talk.

Quote from: KrakaJak;232231Such a beautiful girl too!


My condolences and best wishes to their friends and families.

Everyone note - I did not post that first sentence.

Yeah, This is a really sad event. By that description of her career and life , she was a very talented woman who may have just been hitting her groove.
We'll miss out on future fun things she may have created or helped to design.


- Ed C.

Damn, DDI is never going to get finished at this rate.

What?  You were thinking it too.

Quote from: The_Shadow;232372Justified? Much as I can understand the feelings of male jealousy, that is crazy talk.

While I do not think that the killing is justified in any way, I think that a very bad reaction to a partner's adultery when you are married is more than mere jealousy.

My condolences.

What freaks me out a little is about a month ago I had a feedback meeting with Melissa.

Addendum:
I think this is another case of language structure molding expression. There is no English word for 'understandable' that doesn't also connote 'reasonable.'

Say Man A is walking down the street, and Man B spills soda on Man A unintentionally. Man A responds by screaming about pensions and shooting Man B. Understandable or justified? Er, no.

Turns out Man A has been a janitor for 20 years until fired in a sleight of hand designed to deny him pension. Man B threw a soda out his car window, carelessly, and it spilled on Man A; Man B then laughed. Understandable? Sure. Justified? Still no.

That a wife has an affair and the husband becomes so enraged he is driven to extreme violence is understandable, but in no way justified.

But since English (at least) has no clarity in this sort of discussion, people respond by thrashing about. Sure, a bunch of folks are misogynist a-holes, but I think it would be unfair to use that to explain the entire mess.


I debated delving into this, as a distraction apart from the point that two intelligent and interesting people died. And remember that while he may have done evil and succumbed to the worst impulses, the husband has family, friends, and others who grieve what he did to himself, both spiritually and physically, as well as what he did to his poor wife.

Quote from: Will;232541I think this is another case of language structure molding expression. There is no English word for 'understandable' that doesn't also connote 'reasonable.'

On on the other side, there is no easy way to express that a person contributed to their fate but didn't deserve it.  Having an affair, if she had one, was foolish and reckless and was a wrong against her husband but that does not mean that she deserved her fate.

I can also imagine that there are people who know both who wonder where it all went so horribly wrong.

This is truly sad.  What struck me is that she was a public defender so she would have known how violent and ugly divorces can get but even knowing that and getting the restraining order didn't help her.

Not to imply that she was responsible for what happened but I do divorce work and the ugly truth is the incidents of violence that you see almost always involve a cheating spouse and restraining orders don't stop anyone determined enough.