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Golden Compass Movie and Book

Started by Seanchai, May 13, 2008, 05:56:40 PM

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pspahn

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May 25, 2008, 02:20:45 PM
Quote from: SeanchaiYeah, but c'mon, it's not exactly a huge leap. Coulter even has a little speech in the movie about Magisterium helping people live better lives by telling them how to behave.
Yeah, but if you didn't know the story or agenda, you could also infer that as a nod to Communism or any police state.  It just so happens that we know the background, so it's easy to see the religious connotations.  At least that was my take.
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May 26, 2008, 03:02:12 AM
Quote from: pspahnYeah, but if you didn't know the story or agenda, you could also infer that as a nod to Communism or any police state.  It just so happens that we know the background, so it's easy to see the religious connotations.  At least that was my take.
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Seanchai

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May 26, 2008, 03:45:36 PM
Finished book two. I can definitely see why Christians are upset. Disagree with them strongly, but at least I understand where they're coming from.

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Ian Absentia

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May 26, 2008, 04:29:02 PM
In the first book, you find yourself saying, "Hmm...what the hubbub?" The second book ratchets up the potential controversy significantly.  The general opinion appears to be that the last third to last half of Book 3 is the one that really gives the finger to organised religion in general and Christianity in particular. Stop halfway through the last book and you can still let Pullman off the hook (if you're so inclined, of course).

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walkerp

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May 26, 2008, 05:16:31 PM
I don't think he wants to be let off the hook.
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Ian Absentia

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May 26, 2008, 07:40:28 PM
I was referring to a matter of personal preference on the part of the reader -- as I stated, if one prefers to let him off the hook.  I think you're totally right about Pullman, and, having read a couple of interviews regarding his stance and objective in writing the His Dark Materials series, he comes off as far more of a dick about atheism than is conveyed through the books (at least until the last part of Book 3).

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