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Shrieking Banshee:
The Star Wars Sequel trilogy is amazingly terrible. It kills the past, the present, and the future of itself. By being so sloppy and uncaring with why anything happens within itself, that it effectively kills any spinoff materials that could allay its problems like the Eu did with 1-6. Its agenda driven, uncreative, and without any theme or purpose. I have found the people that like it, generally like it for pure spectacle. But those that don't hate it for a myriad of exsaustively itemized reasons.

And Im glad it exists to in a way kill the franchise. Because I think it was gonna get worse no matter what unless it just did massive timeskips forwards or backwards to tell completly unrelated stories. What I was worried was that it would be popular enough to produce a never ending series of stagnant safe stories. But by being so terrible, even people that would have like The Force Awakens executed 3 million times can't even get that.

And I don't think a sequel trilogy made by Lucas would be all that great either. While clearly visionary and creative, the man is super set in is ways, and is full of stupid ideas because he lacked anybody to push back against them. Stuff like a stupid celestial higharchy:

--- Quote ---“Everyone hated it in Phantom Menace [when] we started to talk about midi-chlorians,” Lucas told fellow director James Cameron in his book James Cameron’s Story of Science Fiction. “There’s a whole aspect to that movie that is about symbiotic relationships. To make you look and see that we aren’t the boss. That there’s an ecosystem.”

Lucas added: “[The next three Star Wars films] were going to get into a microbiotic world. But there’s this world of creatures that operate differently than we do. I call them the Whills. And the Whills are the ones who actually control the universe. They feed off the Force.”

The Whills were, as established by Lucas in the earliest drafts of Star Wars, an order of immortal beings who controlled everything through the Force. “Back in the day, I used to say ultimately what this means is we were just cars, vehicles for the Whills to travel around,” Lucas continued. “We’re vessels for them. And the conduct is the midi-chlorians. The midi-chlorians are the ones that communicate with the Whills. The Whills, in a general sense, they are the Force.”
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In addition his weird warped version Budhism would ensure that the Jedi of the Sequels would have been just as cold and distant as the ones in the Prequels. He famously hated the idea of Luke being married for instance. Because he sees detachment as a good thing because he got divorced and remains bitter because it leads to enlightenment.

So Star Wars is effectively stuck in Limbo as a series. Just doig re-hashes of EU stuff in purpituity. Its sort of dead. But its not undead like the fate of any series that goes on for too long. And for a merciful death, I am thankful for the Disney Sequel trilogy.

Wrath of God:

--- Quote ---In addition his weird warped version Budhism would ensure that the Jedi of the Sequels would have been just as cold and distant as the ones in the Prequels. He famously hated the idea of Luke being married for instance. Because he sees detachment as a good thing because he got divorced and remains bitter because it leads to enlightenment.

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That's actually cool idea for sheer sake for going against American, romantic and humanistic sensibilities

BoxCrayonTales:
I’m working on some original scifi that deals with similar lightside/darkside stuff. But my setting is more Moorcockian. Both sides are actually necessary to maintain balance, as either alone leads to problems.

Armchair Gamer:
   I hadn't seen Lucas' Gnostic/Averroist ideas about individuals as just vessels for the Whills, but it certainly fits in with the Mortis Trilogy he did for The Clone Wars.

   I think I'm sticking with my cherry-picked Star Wars: Episodes I-VI, Tartakovsky Clone Wars, some of the novels (Zahn, Allston, Stackpole, Tyers) and Dark Horse comics, and the WEG and WotC RPG stuff, along with a few other odds and ends. New Jedi Order is a possible future, but not set in stone, and nothing between The Unifying Force and the Legacy comics, if that.

Shrieking Banshee:

--- Quote from: Armchair Gamer on March 04, 2022, 09:34:23 AM ---   I hadn't seen Lucas' Gnostic/Averroist ideas about individuals as just vessels for the Whills, but it certainly fits in with the Mortis Trilogy he did for The Clone Wars.

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In which way? Where they just more specific vessels or something?

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