Ok, completely non political and just for fun, I have a Dr. Who question for people here.

It's obviously relating to the daleks as most of you probably figured out from the title.

I followed the older series and the new one, and I must say that, my my, the new series certainly upgraded the almost laughable daleks into a serious threat. I mean, really, the old school daleks were just laughable as villains, being "well and truly screwed" as John Pertwee put it as soon as anyone ran up 3 steps.

(Of course there was the joke that went "Daleks don't climb stairs, they level the building.")

But then when you can make an enemy blow himself up by hanging you hat on his eyestalk, well what is there to say?

Now the daleks are, or were, a serious menace and here's the question:

I know they came from skaro, and were created by davros in response to the war that had been going on for centuries there that was rendering the planet uninhabitable. I know they were made by a faction called the "Kaled" and that "Dalek" was an anagram for kaled. (BTW, in a non filmed Dr. Who story there were humanoid daleks who called themselves the "Klade" as an anagram for dalek and as a ref to the biological meaning of the term "clade".)

Now, the kaled were quite human, and I wondered if they were descended from earth's humanity? I know that in the whoniverse humans had a major diaspora, but was skaro settled by humans who became the kaled faction that created the daleks?

I wondered this because if it were true then it meant davros was originally  human and he created the daleks, which basically wiped out the time lords of gallifrey. It also means that by saving the human race on earth, the doctor essentially laid the seed of his race's destruction. (It also means that humans could rise to a level rivaling the timelords in terms of power.)

Given the new, darker tone of the new series, I was wondering it it might ever come to pass that the humans from earth essentially lead to the destruction of the galifreyians, and the doctor therefore saved the race that destroyed his.

I know in two cases, daleks were made from humans, once by davors and once by the emperor dalek, and the last batch was all cloned from davros himself which made me wonder if they were human, even earth human, in the first place.

Anyone know?

EDIT: also, at the  end of the eps with martha as companion, it was said that humans at the end of the universe become almost dalek like, I.E. insane cyborgs, again making me wonder...

This has never really been answered in the 'canon' of the show. Different writers in the various decades of the show have done the Daleks slightly differently.

The past 4 years or so , they are trying for continuity and consistency.


- Ed C.

I saw the first Dalek episode not too long ago. While they certainly looked human, I don't recall a mention of them being from Earth.

Seanchai

Quote from: Seanchai;248305I saw the first Dalek episode not too long ago. While they certainly looked human, I don't recall a mention of them being from Earth.

Seanchai

Oh, I know they were from skaro and looked human, what I wondered was were they descended from terran humans who'd settled skaro during the diaspora. Leela's people, for example, were and had forgotten their origin during some big collapse.

Again, given that it was possible to combine a human and a dalek to create a functional hybrid it was wondering if they were just going back to their origin.