Quote from: J Arcane...and even bringing up some of Edwards' more odious opinions is actually topic non grata and can net a ban.

Wait, isn't that what you're advocating here?

Quote from: walkerpWait, isn't that what you're advocating here?

Actually, I think he's saying "Go away or I will taunt you a second time!"

Quote from: Old GeezerActually, I think he's saying "Go away or I will taunt you a second time!"

I don't recall ever being given the authority to do anything else, and even if I had it, I'm far too lazy to bother with more effort.

Freedom of speech baby.  Sometimes that means I get the freedom to say "You're a cunt, fuck off".  

And I'd also point out that the OP is by and large an intellectual exercise, as I have explained further upthread, and taking it as more than such is largely hyperbolic.

Quote from: J ArcaneAny derision and desire for your vacancy was earned by your own actions and the actions of your ideological compatriots.  

My posting record speaks to that.

Your posting record of throwing hissy-fits about people you disagree with sullying your "turf" with their presence? That speaks to what, exactly?

I think I've managed to distill the reasonable response to these ravings down to its most succinct essence, so I'll just stick to that:

:melodramatic:

Peace,
-Joel

QuoteYour posting record of throwing hissy-fits about people you disagree with sullying your "turf" with their presence?

Go back further.

Oh, so "read a bunch of essays and previous threads to be able to understand my position and earn the right to discuss it?"

Quote from: MelinglorOh, so "read a bunch of essays and previous threads to be able to understand my position and earn the right to discuss it?"

No, it's "I'm bored with this discussion and find it a waste of time to put further effort into discussing anything with someone who's only purpose is progressively more hamhanded attemtps to paint me as a 'hypocrite', while utterly failing reading comprehension in the process."

I stuck up for you fuckers.  For a long time.  Went round after round with Pundit for a very long time.  

You people made an enemy out of me, just as you did on RPGnet all those years ago when Ron declared the Holy Writ of TBM and close the theory forum.

Quote from: J ArcaneI stuck up for you fuckers.  For a long time.  Went round after round with Pundit for a very long time.  

You people made an enemy out of me, just as you did on RPGnet all those years ago when Ron declared the Holy Writ of TBM and close the theory forum.

Wait, so you used to be Swine?

Quote from: J ArcaneI stuck up for you fuckers.  For a long time.  Went round after round with Pundit for a very long time.

Yeah, I know you did. Which is why I'm more than a little surprised to see you on this tear, tarring everything and everyone with the same hateful brush. I mean, it's your prerogative to hate my or anyone's guts, reasoningly or no, but you should probably expect some kind of reaction when you express it this bluntly, y'know?

Your dogged use of the collective, e.g. "you fuckers," "you people," is ridiculously broad, unnecessarily divisive, and yes, hypocritical--it's the exact tactic of the Pundit that you've decried in the past. Maybe you're just throwing up your hands and saying 'fine, Pundit, you win," whatever. But when my self-identifying as someone who's found some utility in Forge theory automatically lumps me in with "those fuckers who pissed off JArcane on RPGnet" (a site I've never posted at, and rarely read)? That's a seriously broken standard, man.

Also, that "it's just an intellectual exercise" tack just reads to me like "I'll rant and rave but i'm not actually willing to stand by my words and engage people regarding them."

Peace,
-Joel

Everytime I fool myself into thinking the Forge and it's lot are largely innocuous, and go so far as to stick up for you, it's inevitably only a matter of time before that level of trust, or at least grudging respect or indifference, turns out all wrong in the end.  

I stuck up for you assholes on RPGnet, and even supported the theory forum, and in return, I watched as slowly but surely, thread after thread got crapped even in non-RPG forums with jargonated garbage posts, and basically the entirety of RPG Open get permanently derailed by a lot of hostile idiocy.

But I forgot.  That was foolish of me.  So when I came here, again, I stuck up for the lot of youm time after time.  Railed against the "War", denied it existed, begged desperately for Pundit to just shut the fuck up about it already and leave it alone.

And what it I get?  A flood of glorified press conferences, increasingly slimy, shilltastic behavoir, a massive wave of people who only bothered to show their faces at all to point and mock the userbase and shill whatever pet darling was on this week, until a final culmination that has thus far seemingly permanently hacked off a large portion of this site's traffic as users and readers alike left in disgust.

Never again.  Fuck the lot of you.  I may not have the power to do fuck all about it, but that by no means indicates a lack of desire to make it abundantly clear just how unwelcome the lot of you and your fellow cronies are in my eyes.

J Arcane, I'm glad you opened your eyes.  Of course I'm not the one who makes the best argument against the Forge; close proximity to the Forge's followers does that all by itself.

That said, the traffic of this site has not been significantly reduced; it did experience a brief slump, and you might be able to argue that the Forgie presence here has retarded faster growth. But we're still mostly ok.

Still, let me take this moment to say "I told you so".

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