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BoxCrayonTales:

--- Quote from: Omega on October 01, 2021, 07:50:09 PM ---could be just marketing said they needed some female characters to draw in women.

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That's a load of shit. All the gayswap fanfiction is written by and for straight women.

Women don't need female characters to get invested. They just need dudes who are easy on the eyes and have unintentional gay chemistry.

Shrieking Banshee:

--- Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on October 01, 2021, 09:22:48 PM ---They just need dudes who are easy on the eyes and have unintentional gay chemistry.

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Not even that. Just a scene where they say anything to one another.

Ratman_tf:

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--- Quote from: Shrieking Banshee on September 26, 2021, 10:29:47 AM ---
--- Quote from: Ratman_tf on September 26, 2021, 03:06:52 AM ---Not thrilled with how they killed off Hari Seldon. I hope it's more than just some drummed up drama to "spice up" the show.

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Probably is. Most showrunners have nothing but contempt for their source materials. They see adapting a book as somesort of punishment.

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Why can't studios hire showrunners who actually like the source material?

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Or at least familiarize themselves with it. You don't have to love it, just do a good job with it.

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Odds are, of course, outrage marketing.
Hire someone that hates the product to adapt it. That will get fans screaming and that will attract non fans out of curiosity about what they are screaming about.

Or its just standard hollywood wanting a title and sometimes not much else. Why? Who knows. From reading alot of development notes on adaptions I get the impression the execs just dont care and the producer/director wanted to do some other movie and or literally make a live action fan-fic thats barely related. The "vision".

As for Foundation. Who knows. Genderswapping characters is nothing new so could be agenda, could be just marketing said they needed some female characters to draw in women.

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I will say. Having Hari Seldon be a white male, and not having Gaal Dornick be better than him at psychohistory, and/or not portraying him as a buffoon was a pleasant surprise.

Reckall:

--- Quote from: Warder on October 01, 2021, 05:57:56 PM ---As far as i have seen the episodes so far.. its ok only, nothing that notable or noteworthy i care about. The characters are mostly devoid of charisma, i had some hopes for the emperor but i lost interest. Maybve ill return for the last episode, but theres better sci-fi out there i like.

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The changes, BTW, caused a lot of holes in the plot. They are sent to Terminus via "slow speed" (which still covers 50,000 light years in 900 days so it is still FTL) because the Emperor doesn't like for the Foundation to have hyperspace technology. Even if we ignore how stupid this decision is (just make a law which says that if someone returns he is to be executed immediately), sending them to Terminus with a fleet of Imperial ships and then leaving them there was not in the cards apparently - not to mention how a foundation meant to collect and preserve all human's knowledge so to shorten the interregnum after the fall of the Empire will have the blueprints of hyperspace technology among the first items anyway.

The Empire, given the current situation, doesn't have basic anti-terrorist measures in place.

If you want to defuse a crisis, arresting and killing diplomats is not the smartest thing to do.

The Foundation does seem forced to decide "what" to preserve. This was never a problem in Asimov's novels. Even when they were written back in the '50s it was assumed that a whole planet and technologically advanced storage methods would be enough to store everything. That was not the problem the Foundation had to face at all. And why, BTW, scientists and mathematicians should debate if save the knowledge of math in base 12? It isn't that you need a supercomputer to do it: Wikipedia is enough. The whole scene is an excuse to have a young black woman patronising a reunion of scientists.

A colony ship hasn't a fleet off ground vehicles for when they arrive?

Anyway, even the basic plot goes off the rails by the end of Episode 2, and by Episode 3 it has become its own (boring) thing (Salvor Hardin is not only race/gender swapped but directly not Salvor Hardin at all). I don't think I'll bother to watch the rest.

Ratman_tf:

--- Quote from: Reckall on October 02, 2021, 06:17:18 AM --- And why, BTW, scientists and mathematicians should debate if save the knowledge of math in base 12? It isn't that you need a supercomputer to do it: Wikipedia is enough. The whole scene is an excuse to have a young black woman patronising a reunion of scientists.

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Yeah. That bit was cringey. I could see them debating the value of individual societies history and culture to preserve, but putting it in the context of a base counting system was dumb.

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