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HBO's Watchmen

Started by CarlD., October 21, 2019, 08:27:24 PM

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Conanist

So a few more episodes in, it is looking more like a train wreck than anything insightful. The woke sledgehammers are replaced by ham fisted dialogue and situations, such as the worlds worst suicide bomber. I don't know what they were thinking with this.

CarlD.

This might answer some questions for anyone watching the show in this thread.
"I once heard an evolutionary biologist talk about how violent simians are; they are horrifically violent. He then went on to add that he was really hopeful about humanity because "we\'re monkeys who manage *not* to kill each other most of the time.""

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CarlD.

#47
Episode 6 was pretty informative (or confirmed some things for the more astute viewers) Good world building, the setting felt like it moved in the more pulpish/comic book direction and some of the reasons the Klan and related movement might be more of an issue in this world than in our own came out with some revelation about some of the historical characters (The Minutemen).

And another possible tie to our world, at least according to some fan theories:

Spoiler
QuoteThis could be just a coincidence, but somehow I doubt it...

Remember the guy Will tried to arrest? Gave his name as Fred. In the later scene where Will shoots him, he was hanging around next to a meat delivery truck, possibly his, bearing the name "F.T. and Sons".

Can we think of a real, historical person whose initials were F.T.; who started a supermarket chain, and later went into business with his sons; who was well known for his racism (having once been arrested for taking part in a Klan march); and was a stocky, balding guy with a mustache?

Why yes we can. His name was Fred Trump.
"I once heard an evolutionary biologist talk about how violent simians are; they are horrifically violent. He then went on to add that he was really hopeful about humanity because "we\'re monkeys who manage *not* to kill each other most of the time.""

Libertarianism: All the Freedom money can buy

CarlD.

For another interesting aspect about of real-world parallels, I read an interesting discussion of how in the Watchmen universe, when costumed vigilantes became a real aspect of the world, takes of fictional superheroes dropped in popularity

As a consequence of this the way Superman had an effect on the KKK's prominence, basically in the mid 20th century some KKK documents and information were leaked describing their practices, their terminology and their nefarious plans and were used as story points for a Superman story run in how he fought the KKK that ridiculed their terms and ideals which led to a huge negative public reception for the group. In this alternate world, the same didn't happen due to the drop in fiction comic books. Its something to think about considering the alarming state of affairs in OK, in the show.
"I once heard an evolutionary biologist talk about how violent simians are; they are horrifically violent. He then went on to add that he was really hopeful about humanity because "we\'re monkeys who manage *not* to kill each other most of the time.""

Libertarianism: All the Freedom money can buy

Shrieking Banshee

Quote from: CarlD.;1115441For another interesting aspect about of real-world parallels, I read an interesting discussion of how in the Watchmen universe, when costumed vigilantes became a real aspect of the world, takes of fictional superheroes dropped in popularity.

Do you honestly believe that any of the reasons you said is the reason that Watchmen is currently airing shit about white supremacy, KKK and other such bullshit? And not the writers and the general cultures slant that they actively express?

Ratman_tf

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Omega

That was short. Only 9 episodes? That seems unusually few for a whole season?

Ratman_tf

Quote from: Omega;1119323That was short. Only 9 episodes? That seems unusually few for a whole season?

Mandalorian had 8 episdoes in it's first season.
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

Koltar

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1119357Mandalorian had 8 episodes in it's first season.

Yeah, because now all these cable and steaming shows are imitating the lazy British shows that do 13 episodes or less each year.

In the '60s we had 26 episodes each season of an action adventure show.

 In the 1990s it was 20 to 22 episodes each year.

Hell, the show "24" had to get special permission to do 24 episodes each season to match its own title.

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Omega

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1119357Mandalorian had 8 episdoes in it's first season.

Thats even more short.