The most repellant thing about rpg.net is that they don't recognize my financial genius and send me money to invest in non-dairy milk substitutes and twinkies.

Anyhow, sometimes I think that the self hating geeks are on rpg.net, the geek hating geeks are on the forge and the geeks who love to hate the geeks they love are here.

We're just too deep and complex for those other geeks...

On the topic of the geek hate at rpg.net, I give you this thread.

Here's how it starts:

Quote from: CyanideBreathmintThis isn't a pity party thread, just some slightly maudlin woolgathering, I guess.

I haven't gamed in over two years. I do read the books, I guess, but the closest I get to gaming is pretty much World of Warcraft and Pokemon. I used to write Exalted fluff like I was getting paid for it, and now I kind of just have no interest in gaming.

Well, except for reading the books.

I'm getting increasingly frustrated and angered by the contents of some posts in more RP parts of the forum, and I'm starting to realize that maybe I might have grown out of the whole "gamer" identification thing, that a shared hobby does not imply anything more or less than just a shared hobby.

The Geek Fallacy Scales have fallen from my eyes. Right now I guess I feel a little strange, like someone who's come out of cryogenic storage and found the world moved on past them. Or maybe I feel like the world looking at the person who hasn't moved on.

And then you get 11 pages of bashing on anyone who identifies as a gamer, and a bunch of "I'm not a gamer, I'm a tangency addict." comments.

rpg.net: Gamers Not Welcome.

Hm, would this have anything to do with you sending abusive emails and PMs to rpg.net users and subsequently being permabanned? The man on the street needs to know!

Linky for the curious.

Ned

Quote from: Ned the Lonely DonkeyHm, would this have anything to do with you sending abusive emails and PMs to rpg.net users and subsequently being permabanned? The man on the street needs to know!

Linky for the curious.

Ned

They started it.  They singled me out for harassment and differential treatment, simply because I wouldn't kiss their ass.  Not a single person I "abused" didn't come at me first.  There are no innocents, and I'm never going to feel guilty for fucking with a bunch of elitist pricks.

But no, the above was just to illustrate what rpg.net is really about.

As a man near a street, I could care less. Seriously, I have better shit to do. I have decided to use some of the creepy gamer stories to make NPC's for my D20 Modern Zombie game. I am hoping it will add an element of humour to our April 1st game!

Quote from: JackalopeThey started it.  They singled me out for harassment and differential treatment, simply because I wouldn't kiss their ass.  Not a single person I "abused" didn't come at me first.  There are no innocents, and I'm never going to feel guilty for fucking with a bunch of elitist pricks.

But no, the above was just to illustrate what rpg.net is really about.

Yes, they might be elitist - but you did yourself in on there from what it appears.

There are a few people on here that lasted much longer on there and were banned for far more interesting reasons.


- Ed C.

Quote from: Ned the Lonely DonkeyHm, would this have anything to do with you sending abusive emails and PMs to rpg.net users and subsequently being permabanned? The man on the street needs to know!

Linky for the curious.

Ned

Holy shit, that's creeped out as all fuck.

That's even creepier than Koltar or Nox.  And they're both really creepy.

It's almost worse than the people here who wear their RPG.net bannings proudly on their sleeves.

Quote from: KenHRHoly shit, that's creeped out as all fuck.

That's even creepier than Koltar or Nox.  And they're both really creepy.

It's almost worse than the people here who wear their RPG.net bannings proudly on their sleeves.

I'm reminded of a Blazing Saddles quote - "We'll take the chinks, the scotch, the negroes and the spics. But we're not taking the Irish!"

No way, this is TheRPGSite.  Everyone gets to post here, and that's why it's my favorite board.  Koltar, Jackalope, and anyone else all give this place its unique charm.  And I'm not immune to being a dick or an idiot, either.

Just commenting on the specific incident.

I actually meant it. :pundit:

Quote from: One Horse TownI actually meant it. :pundit:

Yeah...where are all the Irish posters here? :shrug:

!i!

I'm part Irish.  Wanna fight about it?

:haw:

Quote from: StuartI'm part Irish.  Wanna fight about it?

:haw:

'Course you are. Bet you haven't kissed the blarney stone.

Quote from: KoltarYes, they might be elitist - but you did yourself in on there from what it appears.

No, they banned me over some absolutely ridiculous bullshit.  They banned me for an offhand comment about the way the women on that forum use social ostracization as a tactic to avoid criticism (which I can give you tons of evidence for, if you like).

The banned me for making a group attack on women, when in fact all I did was say something about the women on that forum that is an unpleasant truth.  So, in response, I made a real group attack on the women on that forum.  And I played crazy (it's amazing how easy it is to convince people you're nuts BY TAPPING THE CAPS LOCK KEY and doing your best Sam Kinison...) and provoke some rather silly overreaction from them.  Like canceling a meet-up I had no intention of going to, didn't know the location of, and (if I remember the date correctly) was scheduled for a night I'm working.  You'd think the fact that I threatened them with a bucket of dog poo would have made someone stop and think "Wait, this can't be serious, can it?"

(Though my promise to beat the shit out of Darren if I ever meet him in person is genuine.  His emails to me where so full of arrogant, condescending bullshit that dude has a serious schedule with my fist.)

I mean, yes, obviously I'm a huge jerk for messing with them like that, and I'd probably be the better person if I just walked away, but the sort of passive-aggressive moderator-bullying that goes on there really offends me on a deep level.  It just sticks in my craw.  And due to my work schedule, I'm up late til the early hours of the morning, and I was bored as hell (internet forums are my only real source of entertainment after 2 am, when TV is nothing but infomercials (not that TV is generally enough to entertain me anyways)).

There was no point in me trying to stay on their good side, not when that site is set up as the personal playground of the mods.   The other users, friends of the mods and what not, were given carte blanche to harass and bother me, to make snide little passive-aggressive comments and their obnoxious "tut tut! badwrongthought!" bullshit, which leads to an extremely hostile environment, and that combined with the mods obviously having in out for me -- I used the word tyranny to describe their behavior (because it means unjust, arbitrary and oppressive, a description justified by Stephenlas's comment that the mods do intentionally promote a "culture of fear [of the mods]") and the next day every one of the mods had changed their tag to read "[Something] Like Tyranny." -- made me realize that they just revel in their own bullshit, so there was no point in waiting out my month banning.

I'd understand them banning me if I'd actually, I dunno, attacked anyone, but when you define even the most mild criticism from one user as a "group attack," and blithely ignore far more troubling statements from more established users (or hell, even less established users like Flanel (see below) because ou're too busy getting your jollies fucking with a user to do your damn job), you create an environment where it's impossible to have genuine intelligent discussion.  And you create an environment I want nothing to do with.

It's going to be very easy for people to pretend that they banned me for everything that happened after I got banned, and if you read through some of the threads in Trouble Tickets there's a lot of post hoc justification going on.  The only sad part is that no one there is going to learn a damn thing.  

QuoteThere are a few people on here that lasted much longer on there and were banned for far more interesting reasons.

That's a big part of why I'm so irked by my banning.  I got warned and threatened with banning when I called people who make mountains out of molehills for political purposes lazy and obnoxious.  Then I got banned for saying I think modern religions are devoid of spirituality.  Then I got banned for saying that the women on the forum use social games rather than logic and argument to deal with criticism of their ideas.

That's so banal.  It's just sad that I could get banned for such trivial and slight comments.

Meanwhile, you've got this guy Flannel who is obviously stirring up shit and trolling.  First he starts the women gamers thread, which is basically like "Let's indulge in stereotypes!" Now he's created a thread where his starting premise is "People who cross-play gender are creepy."

And where are the mods?  Asleep at the wheel.

Quote from: JackalopeYou'd think the fact that I threatened them with a bucket of dog poo would have made someone stop and think "Wait, this can't be serious, can it?"

Actually, the Internet is so brimming-over with crazy, if someone pointed out that he had a grudge and was within easy driving distance of someone, it'd be wise to take it seriously.  That e-mail that was quoted was full of all manner of crazy.

!i!